Decisions In Ferguson

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Raphtalia, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. Feeling like your being targeted isn't really any justification to go out and commit crime, against people who aren't police officers...
     
  2. I'd like to see one example of racism today. (From white people to black people, al sharpton doesn't count)
     
  3. Actually, I saw it on Fox.

    He didn't charged at the cop. He reached towards his waist band to pull up his pants. Again, not grounds for a cop to kill a person. And the same "imminent danger" legal defense will protect the officer. Seriously, am I the only one who see something wrong when you can be shot and killed by the police for pulling up your pants?

    It's not just the Brown case or any particular case. Police are gunning down unarmed citizens of every color all over America. Some of you may think it's ok when it happens to minorities, but the fact is, it can happen to anyone. It can happen to you.
     
  4. I wish you'd stop acting like you knew what the **** you were talking about.

    Wilson's face was swollen. Meaning he was attacked and hit. But being in fear for your life.. Not grounds for a cop to kill someone. /endsarcasm
     
  5. Wear a belt or buy the right size pants, pants weren't made to hang below your butt anyway. Sad a reflex like pulling up your ever-falling pants can get you killed.
     
  6. YouTube comments.
     
  7. Some witness backed up Wilson. Some didn't. Seeing as how we don't know who any of them are or their credibility, why do you believe some and not others?

    Slavery ended 150 years ago. The effects didn't. I'm old enough to remember Jim Crow laws and "Whites Only" signs and "Sundown Towns". For you younger folks, those are towns blacks (and other minorities) weren't allowed in after dark. It's not ancient history. I remember them and so do a lot of blacks.

    Those attitudes persisted even after the civil rights act. In the south there continued to be a systematic institutional effort to deny blacks equality. Hell, Mississippi didn't even ratify the 13th Amendment ending slavery until last year. I know a lot of whites would prefer to ignore the past and like to say "I didn't own slaves" but that's our past as a nation. It's not an excuse. It's a fact. And to suggest blacks are all better now and should just get over is just uncomprehending of the reality of the issue.

    Like I said, you guys are tired of hearing about it? Try living with it.
     
  8. Simple. The physical evidence didn't back up the other "witnesses".

    Also, this crybaby mentality isn't going to win blacks anything in the modern age. They have every opportunity to succeed just like any other race. They might have generations of family in inner cities, but is this not simply a culture of laziness and feeling sorry for themselves?
     
  9. Here's two.

    "Wells Fargo Will Settle Mortgage Bias Charges

    July 12, 2012 - An investigation by the department’s civil rights division found that mortgage brokers working with Wells Fargo had charged higher fees and rates to more than 30,000 minority borrowers across the country than they had to white borrowers who posed the same credit risk, according to a complaint filed on Thursday along with the proposed settlement."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/13/busin ... arges.html

    "Ally to pay $98 million for car loan bias

    December 20, 2013 - Minority car buyers were victims of discriminatory lending practices on their car loans, according to federal authorities who have reached a $98 million settlement with Ally Financial. Federal officials said that Detroit-based Ally Financial and Ally Bank charged higher interest rates from about 235,000 car loan borrowers who were Hispanic, African-American, and Asian/Pacific Islanders since April, 2011."
    http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/20/news/co ... imination/
     
  10. Because after the autopsies came back the so called eye witnesses that said he had his hands up etc admitted to lying and repeating what they heard.. Also the attorney that announced this and followed the investigation closely is a liberal so you can't say he is corrupt and the jury all came to a conclusion. As for calling him a demon or whatever, he said when he grabbed him his eyes looked as a demon and he was way stronger then him referring to hulk hogan comment
     
  11. Dragon you should watch the movie America, did you know half of plantation owners were slaves? Also half of the slaves were white from Europe!! People are ignorant to the facts and just believe whatever this public common core education tells them.. Most of the strategy for the Democratic Party to become big was indoctrination. Getting democrats in school systems and corrupting education, making our founding fathers look bad and blaming it on the "white man". They play the guilt card to try to make people feel bad when in reality they shouldn't because as I stated earlier some of the most feared plantation owners were black and half of the slaves were white. Get to know the truth before you spew watered down facts
     
  12. Try wishing harder while you join the long line of people waiting for me to give a damn about their opinions.

    I saw the photos. It doesn't look like it's swollen to me. I see what appears to be a faint bruise on the side of his face. About what you'd get from a slap. He also has a faint scrap on the side of back of his neck. Wilson claims he was hit repeatedly in the face by a demonic Hulk Hogan. His words, not mine. I've seen people beaten. Wilson does not appear to have been beaten to me. If you think otherwise. That's your choice.

    And the question remains, was Wilson in danger of losing his life when the fatal shots were fired? Since you appear to be ignorant of the law, I'll explain. Each shot must be justified. If Brown was trying to surrender, Wilson wasn't justified. If Brown was collapsing to the ground and no longer a danger, Wilson wasn't justified. That's what a trial is for. To determine these facts. A Grand Jury isn't a trial.

    If you need anything else explained, let me know.
     
  13. He didn't just call him demonic hulk hogan you're using those words out of context.. Also this has pondered my mind.. Do you think the little Indian guy who owned the store he robbed would agree he had a demonic look in his eye and was like hulk hogan STRONG??? lol and if some white guy was charging at president Obama I guarantee he wouldn't have a problem with his security guards to blow him away what's the difference
     
  14. I live here . Its sad to watch this go on
     
  15. Um, no.

    Slaves don't own property. Slaves ARE property. If you mean blacks owned slaves, yes, I'm aware there were black slave owners, but "half the plantation owners" weren't blacks. Not even close.

    "In 1830, the year most carefully studied by Carter G. Woodson, about 13.7 percent (319,599) of the black population was free. Of these, 3,776 free Negroes owned 12,907 slaves, out of a total of 2,009,043 slaves owned in the entire United States, so the numbers of slaves owned by black people over all was quite small by comparison with the number owned by white people."

    And here's the kicker

    "As Woodson put it in 1924's Free Negro Owners of Slaves in the United States in 1830, "The census records show that the majority of the Negro owners of slaves were such from the point of view of philanthropy. In many instances the husband purchased the wife or vice versa … Slaves of Negroes were in some cases the children of a free father who had purchased his wife. If he did not thereafter emancipate the mother, as so many such husbands failed to do, his own children were born his slaves and were thus reported to the numerators... In other words, these black slave-owners, the clear majority, cleverly used the system of slavery to protect their loved ones."
    http://www.theroot.com/articles/history ... ist.2.html

    So yes, blacks did own slaves. A small amount of the total, and mostly their own relatives.
     
  16. If someone punches me in the face when I'm in my car at a stoplight and I have a gun in the car I don't care what color religion age or gender they are ..that person "IS" going to eat some lead.

    In reverse....

    "IF" I was to ever punch someone in the face while they were in their car at a spotlight and I "KNEW" they had a gun I would expect to be shot

    ....end of story
     
  17. "In four hours of vivid testimony before the St. Louis County grand jury in September describing his shooting of Michael Brown, the officer said Mr. Brown, 18, had looked “like a demon” when he first approached him.

    The officer described himself as utterly terrified when, he said, Mr. Brown reached into his police vehicle and fought him for his gun. Mr. Brown was so physically overpowering that the officer, who is 6-foot-4, similar to Mr. Brown, said he “felt like a 5-year-old holding on to Hulk Hogan.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/fe ... cting.html

    His description, not mine. How am I using his words out of context?

    I've got chores to do. We can discuss later.
     
  18. Whats the use of carrying guns if you may not use them /).-
     
  19. My bad about that typo  and some black slave owners gave their slaves to the confederate army to keep slavery. Idk if your numbers are right but look into white slaves in America that worked with the black slaves and don't go to the first website you find snoop around... Yea when someone comes up to you trying to take your firearm from you wouldn't you say they were like a demon? Since murder is evil? He was sitting in his car if someone has a hold of you and they're standing outside of your door they're going to do whatever they want to you he had no choice but to kill him. After brown had gotten shot he still didn't stop so what happens then? Also what do you think Obama would have to say about a big white guy charging at Obama after trying to get a gun from one of his guards? He wouldn't have a problem with shooting him
     
  20. Tear gas and a few riot shot guns will send those Un welcome pieces of trash back to the trailer park. Get the hell out of the United States if u don't like it. The cop was justified in doing what he did and I would have done the same thing. In other countries it's a crime thinking about burning your own flag. I don't believe that burning the flag with hundreds of family and friends is a good way to send a message to the public, who r mostly now not your friends and family. The way I see it, the US government should put these degenerates on 21 day lock down bc their filthy anti cop bull crap is more disgusting than ebola