No racism involved he answered a call and eliminated the threat after he basically got into a cop car and tried to take his weapon then charged at him and wouldn't stop.. He had just robbed a store also he was a thug end of story.. Lesson learned don't assault a cop :lol: as for the scums burning down their own town and destroying family businesses it's their loss.. And they should be brought up on charges and locked up for a while.
Oh and dragon there is no profiling.. He robbed a store and was walking in the middle of the road and tried to jump a cop and take his weapon therefore got what was coming to him.. You know something else there is a case in UTAH where a black cop shot a white guy who was unarmed and running from him.. You don't hear no one bitching or demanding answers there why didn't Obama and Holder go to that guys funeral? Who is really profiling? Why does Michaels case get the popularity? Ask yourself
Because Dragon is typical liberal he manipulated facts into something they really for mean in order to prove a point.
You mean this? What part of "The U.S. Sentencing Commission reported in March 2010 that in the federal system black offenders receive sentences that are 10% longer than white offenders for the same crimes." Do you not understand? Same crime,10% longer sentences. You make the same claim about drug use saying "seriousness" comes into play but ignore the earlier data I posted on one drug in particular, marijuana. Blacks have about the same usage rates but are arrested for possession far more often. The only "seriousness" would be amounts in possession, but that applies to sentencing, not the fact that they're arrested for having it in the first place. Same goes for random stops. You claim I fail to consider the "seriousness" in each case. "80% of the NYPD stops were of blacks and Latinos. When whites were stopped, only 8% were frisked. When blacks and Latinos are stopped 85% were frisked according to information provided by the NYPD." Seriousness of each case? There is no case. People who haven't committed a crime are being stopped and frisked. Blacks and Latinos at far higher rates than whites despite being a far smaller portion of the population. I see nothing in what you've posted that refutes any of my data.
Dragon I'm about you drown you in your "science". But before I do, let me just say this just about disproves your "black people are profiled" argument. These are the numbers and data you people on the left love so much. "Facts About Blacks - Blacks "were 7 times more likely than whites to commit homicide in 1998". http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homici.../www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/kidsrates.txt 28% of black males go to jail, vs. 4.4% of White males http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm 68.7% of blacks are born out of wedlock! http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr50_05tb19.pdf 56% of black women have genital herpes!!! See page 21 of... http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/dstd/Stat.../Trends2000.pdf 62% of ALL black births are paid for by the US government. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/datawh/statab/pubd/2319_69.htm Though only 12% of the population, blacks take 38.3% of the total of all welfare payments. Whites are 72% of the population, and take 30.5% of the total. http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/op...99/analysis.htm JOURNAL OF BLACKS IN HIGHER EDUCATION http://www.jbhe.com/latest/020403_b
Actually, it's because I'm replying to multiple posts and I hadn't gotten to his yet. And don't hate on me because I can post facts. Hate yourself for not being able to disprove them.
Here it is, (edited, it got cut off) "Facts About Blacks - Blacks "were 7 times more likely than whites to commit homicide in 1998". http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homici.../www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/kidsrates.txt 28% of black males go to jail, vs. 4.4% of White males http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm 68.7% of blacks are born out of wedlock! http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr50_05tb19.pdf 56% of black women have genital herpes!!! See page 21 of... http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/dstd/Stat.../Trends2000.pdf 62% of ALL black births are paid for by the US government. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/datawh/statab/pubd/2319_69.htm Though only 12% of the population, blacks take 38.3% of the total of all welfare payments. Whites are 72% of the population, and take 30.5% of the total. http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/op...99/analysis.htm JOURNAL OF BLACKS IN HIGHER EDUCATION http://www.jbhe.com/latest/020403_bw_sat.html Here is the pertinent data for the "poverty causes black failure" bovine scatology: But income alone does not explain the racial scoring gap. Consider these facts: **Whites from families with incomes of less than $10,000 had a mean SAT score of 980. This is 123 points higher than the national mean for all blacks. **Whites from families with incomes below $10,000 had a mean SAT test score that was 46 points higher than blacks whose families had incomes of between $80,000 and $100,000. **Blacks from families with incomes of more than $100,000 had a mean SAT score that was 142 points below the mean score for whites from families at the same income level. The disparity in interracial murder rates is astounding. For every 100,000 White people, how many do you think kill blacks? And for every 100,000 negroes, how many do think kill Whites? Let's find out... Kill ratios Averaged for Five Years B on W W on B 1994 1306 469 1995 1110 454 1996 1077 417 1997 974 343 1998 839 362 -----*------ Total 5306 2045 Average 1061.2 409 White Population in *thousands* 98 97 96 95 94 223,001 221,317 219,623 218,010 216,365 Total 1,098,316,000 Average 219,663,200 Black Population in *thousands* 98 97 96 95 94 34,431 33,973 33,518 33,098 32,654 Total 167,674,000 Average 33,534,800 Black average of White murders / Black average population per 100,000 1061 / 33,534,800 x 100,000 = 3.16 White average of Black murders / White average population per 100,000 409 / 219,663,200 x 100,000 = 0.186 3.16/0.186 = 16.99 BLACKS ARE 17 TIMES (1700%) MORE LIKELY TO KILL WHITES THAN WHITES ARE TO KILL BLACKS So, do you think the ratios are insignificant? What if White people killed blacks at the same rate that blacks killed whites?? Let x = dead negroes killed between 1994-2003 x / 219,663,000 x 100,000 = 3.16 x = (3.16)(219,663,000) / 100,000 x = 6941 per year 6941 x 10 years = 69,410 dead negroes This is over TEN THOUSAND MORE DEATHS THAN WERE SUFFERED BY AMERICANS DURING THE ENTIRE VIET NAM WAR. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/ovrace.txt http://www.census.gov/population/es.../intfile3-1.txt Liberals often try to blame Black violence on poverty. The Census data, however, disproves that hypothesis. How? In 1995, among the American poor, there were 16.3 million Whites (real ones), 10.0 million Blacks, 8.6 million "Hispanics," and 1.4 million Asians. Blacks comprised about 27.6% of the American poor. Those poverty numbers can be verified at http://www.census.gov/hhes/poverty/pov95/povest1.html **During that year, Blacks committed about 54% of all US murders. Remember that the FBI, from whom the murder information comes, counts "Hispanics" as "Whites," making the total number of poor persons eligible to be committing murders as "Whites" about 24.8 million. These "Whites" comprised 68.5% of the American poor, but committed - at most - only 46% of 1995 US murders, if we make the doubtful assumption that Asians and Amerindians committed none. The evidence argues against the liberal hypothesis that poverty causes crime. **** is an economic crime if liberals are willing to admit that women are merchandise or "goods", and that men are compelled to take them because they're impoverished, and not criminal scum. See page 10 http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/soo.pdf The racial distribution of arrestees for **** is similar to the racial distribution for all violent UCR arrests ¾ 56% of arrestees for **** in 1995 were white, 42% were black, and 2% were of other races. The population of all races - approx. 275,617,000 White 226,563,000 Black 35,392,000 226,563,000/275,617,000 = 82.2% of Whites in America 35,392,000/275,617,000 = 12.8% of Blacks in America Child abuse- Sexual All types Sexual Total Whites 64.8% 54.8% 17,978 139,480 Blacks 19.2% 30.8% 5,399 78,339 Sources: http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cb/...96/table25.htm White total child abuse per 100,000: 139,480/2265.63 = 61.6 Black total child abuse per 100,000: 78,339/353.92 = 221.4 Now let's divide the smaller White rate into the larger black rate to get a comparison: 221.4/61.6 = 3.6 ***Blacks are 3.6 times MORE LIKELY to abuse their children then Whites.*** White sexual child abuse per 100,000 (226,563,000/100,000 = 2265.63): 17,978/2265.63 = 7.94 Black sexual child abuse per 100,000 (35,392,000/100,000 = 353.92): 5399/353.92 = 15.25 Now let's divide the smaller White rate into the larger black rate to get a comparison: 15.25/7.94 = 1.9 ***Blacks are 1.9 times MORE LIKELY to sexually abuse their children than Whites.*** It's almost impossible to adopt white babies in America. http://www.census.gov/population/est...intfile3-1.txt Population Figures: year White black (in thousands) 1990 209,196 30,629 1991 210,975 31,137 1992 212,874 31,683 1993 214,691 32,195 1994 216,379 32,672 avg. 212,823 31,663 Now let's look at the race of children awaiting adoption from that same period. http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cb/dis/vcis/iv19a.htm year White black 1990 9,801 8,159 1991 10,193 9,650 1992 11,137 11,170 1993 11,538 12,199 1994 16,496 20,234 avg 11,833 12,282 White Average of Children Awaiting Adoption per 100,000: 11,833/2128.23 = 5.56 Black Average of Children Awaiting Adoption per 100,000: 12,282/316.63 = 38.79 Black Average divided by White Average to get a rate comparison: 38.79/5.56 = 6.98 A BLACK CHILD IS SIX TIMES (600%) MORE LIKELY TO BE AWAITING ADOPTION THAN A WHITE CHILD. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/771271.stm Africa's problems Roads: only 16% paved Telephones: 10 per 1000 Electricity: 80% lack access Aids: 35m infected Sanitation: inadequate for 75% of rural population Source: Can Africa Claim the 21st Century The bank says the total combined income of 48 countries in Africa is little more than that of Belgium. In the last 40 years, average incomes per person in Africa have stagnated while they have grown in most of the rest of the world. Africa now accounts for only 1% of the total world economic output and 2% of world trade. On average, African countries have economies smaller than a town of 60,000 people in a rich country. With only 10m telephone lines, half of them in South Africa, there is little chance of most Africans gaining access to the internet. Africa has fewer roads than Poland, only 16% of which are paved, and only one in five households has access to electricity. Two-thirds of rural Africans lack adequate water supplies, while three quarters lack adequate sanit ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- In 1988, there were ten cases of White men raping Black women, but Black men raped White women in 9,405 cases. White criminals attack Blacks only two per cent of the time. Of 629,000 interracial attacks recorded in 1985, fully 90 per cent were Black on White. The FBI Uniform Crime Report (available at the FBI web page) makes a number of disturbing points: In 1995, Blacks accounted for 13% of the population; Amerinds for 2%, and Mexicans, Whites and all others (the FBI even includes Arabs as Whites) 85%. If the races were equal in their criminal behavior, then it could reasonably be expected that for any given category of crime, 85% of those arrested would be White and 13% of those arrested would be Black. But that is not what is found in the FBI Uniform Crime Report. Under the crime of burglary, 30.4% of arrested are Black and 67.8% are White. The Black burglary rate 30.4 over 13, divided by the White burglary rate of 67.8 over 85, gives a figure of 2.93. If these arrest records accurately record the commission of burglaries, that means that Blacks commit burglary at almost 3 times the rate of Whites. Using the same methodology, the figures other crimes can also be broken down: Weapons violations are committed by Blacks at nearly 5 times the rate for Whites; Blacks are caught receiving or buying stolen property at nearly 5 times the rate for Whites; Blacks are involved in prostitution at almost 4 times the rate for Whites; Blacks are arrested for drug crimes at over 4 times the rate for Whites; Blacks are more than three times as likely as Whites to be caught at forgery, counterfeiting, and fraud, and almost three times as likely to be caught at embezzlement; Blacks are more than 3 times as likely to be thieves as Whites; Blacks are more than 4 times as likely to commit assault as Whites; Blacks are almost 4.5 times as likely to steal a motor vehicle; Blacks are more than 5 times as likely to commit forcible **** as Whites; Blacks are over 8 times as likely to commit murder as Whites; Blacks are more than 10 times as likely to commit robbery as Whites; Nearly 25% of all Black males between the ages of 20 and 29 are in jail or on probation - this does not include those wanted or awaiting trial; For all violent crimes considered together, Blacks are almost 5.5 times more likely to commit violent criminal acts than Whites; all this according to the FBI Uniform Crime Report. Once again it is worth stressing that the FBI figures do not break down separate statistics for Central American immigrants, Mexicans, Arabs, or anybody else: if the FBI had included a separate category for these racial groups, the disparity between Black and White would be even larger. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A few of the statistics compiled by Professor Donald Huddle of Rice University--- “40% of all workers in Los Angeles County work for cash and do not pay taxes This is because they are predominantly ILLEGAL immigrants. 95% of warrants for murder in L.A. are for ILLEGAL immigrants 75% of people on the most wanted list for L.A. are ILLEGAL immigrants Over 2/3 of all births (mostly Mexicans) are for births paid for by taxpayers Nearly 25% of all inmates in California are Mexican nationals here ILLEGALLY About 60% of all HUD property occupants are ILLEGAL immigrants Less than 2% of ILLEGAL immigrants are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare The cost of ILLEGAL immigrants to the American taxpayers in 1997 was a net (that was AFTER subtracting taxes paid by immigrants) of $70 BILLION dollars a year.” We can only begin to imagine how much more astronomical that number is now in 2006. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Between 1882-1968 (86 years) 3,446 blacks were lynched in the US. If you know what percent of these were lynched "just for being black" versus lynched for specific crimes, I like to see that data. From the Tampa Tribune, "In 2002 the United States had 14,054 homicides, according to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report. Black men accounted for nearly 40 percent of victims, and black men committed 95 percent of those murders." That means in 2002 blacks in the US murdered 5,340 of their racial kinsmen. In other words, in just one year (2002) blacks killed 65% more blacks than whites lynched in 86 years of recorded history. __________________ JOURNAL OF BLACKS IN HIGHER EDUCATION http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_coll...ions-test.html . Whites from families with incomes of less than $10,000 had a mean SAT score of 980. This is 123 points higher than the national mean for all blacks. . Whites from families with incomes below $10,000 had a mean SAT test score that was 46 points higher than blacks whose families had incomes of between $80,000 and $100,000. . Blacks from families with incomes of more than $100,000 had a mean SAT score that was 142 points below the mean score for whites from families at the same income level. -------------------------------- http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/007721.html In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black women were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man. What this means is that every day in the United States, over one hundred white women are raped or sexually assaulted by a black man.................."
Ever since a black kid stole my Skippy bar in the fourth grade... it was all downhill from there. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm don't have to disprove anything. You are the one claiming a thug was racially profiled.. He robbed a store and fit the description and low behold it really was him who robbed the store but because of your facts the officer should not have stopped him. Then also because of your facts he should be allowed to attack the officer.. Sounds legit It's a natural human instinct to judge what we see.. If we see someone behaving in a disrespectful or wild way we will judge them.. If they are poorly dressed and speak in a manner which is difficult to understand.. Then they will be judged
Ha. I'm just a teensy bit curious as to how the development of African countries has anything to do with the issues we have here in the United States.
You keep a "Facts about Blacks" file? Interesting. That's quite the data dump. Again, without going into each and every item you've posted in detail, you're consistently overlooking the fact that if you're targeted by police more, you're going to have higher crime rates. You're also completely dismissing the fact that blacks were slaves until 1865, oppressed and denied equal rights by law until 1964, and are still discriminated against today. Yet somehow, as a group they're supposed to have overcome all that and by gosh, be the same as whites. I'm not sure why. They haven't been treated the same as whites for most of their time here. They damn sure haven't had the same opportunities. So why exactly blacks are supposed to have caught up to whites and by gosh, be more like us?
I haven't said that Brown was racially profiled by Wilson. I'm implying that Brown is being racially profiled by posters here. I don't care if Brown was black or white . My question is whether or not Wilson was justified in killing Brown. Why? Because I believe in rule of law and protecting my rights under the Constitution. And I think whenever anyone's rights are ignored it makes it that much easier for mine to be ignored. Contrary to popular opinion, Brown hadn't been convicted of crime and even if he had been, felons still have rights. People may not like that fact, but they do. That's something my friends on the right don't seem to understand. The Constitution and the law doesn't just apply to people you think deserve it or groups you like. It applies to everyone in the country, citizen or not. For a group, that claims to love the Constitution and the law so much, they don't seem to know much about it. That's obvious by the fact that so many of them are willing to ignore it when it comes to people they don't like. And yeah, I'm aware about the case in Utah. If you want to start a thread about it, I'll talk about it. This one is about Ferguson.
It's disgusting. Yes it's awful an 18 year old is dead Yes I believe racial profiling exists Yes I believe there are racist cops Yes I believe it's harder to be a black man However ... This was no innocent gentle giant This was a mountain of a man who used his size to bully people He robbed that store He attacked and attempted to shoot that cop with his own gun After being shot he charged several times before the fatal bullet hit from 8 ft away. This Michael brown caused his own death with his own actions and thuggish behavior. The parents should be blamed for raising this kid this way Believe me I see it every day this thug life mentality and it does nobody any good The family claims to want peaceful protests meanwhile they are caught on camera enciting a riot and telling the masses of thugs to burn buildings down... Grief is not smiling and dancing as you loot neighborhood stores. This is a group of people who doesn't even care about Michael brown they are just using this as a reason to act like fools. It's disgusting and I hope the military arrests all off these idiots.
Um, no. I've said that blacks are racially profiled and I've implied that blacks are being racially profiled here. I haven't claimed that Wilson racially profiled Brown. My question is was Wilson legally justified to kill Brown. I don't care if Brown robbed the store. Stealing is not grounds for a cop to kill someone. I don't know if Brown attacked the officer. Wilson said he did. Witnesses said he didn't. I do know that Wilson does not appear to have any serious injury. I also know there are questions as to whether Brown was trying to surrender. The difference between you and me Larry is you're perfectly willing to believe everything the police and the DA are saying. You've decided Wilson was right. That's your choice. Me, I haven't decided anything. I don't have enough information to make that decision. And that's my whole point. There should have been a trial. All the information should have been examined and subject to challenge. It wasn't.
Yea u probably had to google it but w/e .. This thread was summed up in a sentence of you charge at a cop you will get shot end of story
Are those facts too difficult for you liberals to twist? Also slavery ended 150 years ago. I never owned slaves and my family never owned slaves.. Guess what there were Chinese slaves that built the transcontinental rail road.. Every kind of race has been a slave at some point so you really gotta stop using that excuse.