Decisions In Ferguson

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Raphtalia, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. You make it seem like all Africans are black, have you ever heard of South Africans?

    Edit: I see you have another outdated source from 2009.
     
  2. Larry, you're a typical conservative with no facts at all. Let's talk about Wilson being assaulted.

    Wilson said he felt like a 5 year old being attacked by Hulk Hogan. Wilson described Brown as "demonic" and said he was repeatedly punched in the face by this Demonic Hulk Hogan. Wilson's not small. He's 6'4" inches tall and weighs 210 pounds. He's hardly a 5 year old. And where are his injuries?

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    Does that look like someone who was beaten up by a demonic Hulk Hogan?

    And Wilson's not exactly an angel. Here's a video of him ordering a man to stop videoing him (which is legal) or he was going to "lock your ass up.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014 ... ording-him

    And he did in fact, lock his ass up for doing something legal.

    Furthermore, you're constantly misstating my position. I don't know if Wilson is a good cop or a bad cop. I don't know if Brown is an angel or a thug. I don't dispute that Brown did in fact rob the store. My position is, when a cop kills someone, especially if that person is unarmed, it needs to be justified and legal. There's too many questions about this case to know if it was without a trial. If you're willing to accept that it was without one, that's fine. I'm not.

    And spare me the "liberal" routine. I've been around long enough to know from first hand experience that cops aren't always truthful and police depts can and do cover their asses. I don't take anything the government tells me on blind faith, especially the part that's authorized to use deadly force on me.
     
  3. It's four years old and covers a decade. It's hardly "outdated". Nor have I seen you present any data at all. So before you start complaining about mine, maybe you should present some of your own.
     
  4. Forensic evidence corroborates the police officer's story and shows there was a struggle in the car. When you assault a cop you might get shot. Not sure what's so difficult to understand
     
  5. Because Michael Brown was such an outstanding citizen and role model in his community, such an angel and respectable person. He's not a gang banger or a criminal.

    *Posts ignorant photo on the internet*

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  6. You Do the Crime You Do the Time....This Case six feet under. Why Would you Head on charged a police ? Life isn't a game where you can restart. STop Throwing Out The Racist Card every Time!!!get old!!!
     
  7. When a cop uses deadly force, each and every shot has to be justified. They're not allowed to simply unload the clip. Once the imminent threat to the officers life is over, he is no longer justified to use deadly force. There are questions about who started the struggle. There are questions about the forensic evidence. Brown also ran away. There are questions as to whether or not he was trying to surrender. Not sure what's so difficult to understand.
     
  8. That's the point. If you're black or brown and do the crime, you're more far more likely to be prosecuted and do more time. It's not a race card. It's a fact.

    And if you think it gets old hearing it, try living with it.
     
  9. The forensic evidence shows that he was not trying to surrender..

    Can't unload a full clip? Never heard of that.. How are they trained? How many shots in a burst are they taught to shoot? I thought it was shoot to kill... Hmm
     
  10. Dragon, Michael Brown was a thug. Plain and simple.

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  11. My comments in between [ ].

    Basically your sources and statistics don't take into account the seriousness of each offense and put every offense that falls into that category under one banner.
     
  12. it's VERY CLOSE to five years bub, it's in fact outdated and a TERRIBLE source. :lol:
     
  13. Your obviously a bigot trying to make white people look bad, I shouldn't have to do anything as your opinionated. You have your head up your
     
  14. So basically bub, you don't have any data to refute it.

    The sources are, Congressional testimony by the Sentencing Project, the ACLU, the NYPD, the U.S. Sentencing Commission, and the University of Wisconsin. Explain why those are bad sources.

    While you're at it, tell us all what changes have been made to justice system in the last 5 years that give you reason to believe anything has changed? Or are your posting skills limited to whining about other people's data while providing none of your own?
     
  15. No. Forensic evidence has two meanings.
    1) evidence for the court. This never went to court. Grand Jury evidence allows hearsay and other inadmissible evidence that would never be allowed in court, so under definition 1, there was no forensic evidence at all, and because of the prosecutor's guidance of the Grand Jury, there may never be.

    2) based on science. Considering the numerous conflicting reports alleging different objective facts, there is no scientific consensus on the events. Further, to become "forensic evidence," these alleged scientific facts must be admitted in court, which again, has not and may not happen.

    Do not rest your hat on the phrase "forensic evidence." It is an incorrect term used by the disingenuous to convince the uneducated.

    Anyone who claims to have all the "facts" and "evidence", or who can say with certainty what actually occurred, is delusional or a liar, or both.
     
  16. Just kill em all
     
  17. Race is only prominent because white guys don't get tattoos all over their faces and fingers.
     


  18. I'm presenting the data. If it makes white people look bad, maybe white people should do something about it? Like, I don't know, maybe stop profiling and stereotyping black and brown people? Or maybe make the justice system equal for everyone?

    Pull your own head out of your own ass and stop whining about bigots.
     
  19. Also, Wilson suffered obvious bruising to the face and back of the head. Way to use the furthest picture to frame your argument Dragon.

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  20. Please, look at the post by me that you seem to have ignored and you'll see why your numbers and statistics are questionable at best.