If an account funneled a lot of gold out, they might appear to lose more than glitched. Sorry but it's still cheating no matter how you try to spin it. I do find it ironic that I see a lot of people who always accuse others of cheating caught red handed.
Anyways that's about it. Just wanted to clear my name. While I may have exploited the system and got oprah rich(they took in excess of 22t in exploited gold and 3-4t in my own earnings I had prior to exploit) I didn't cheat or break any rules listed in tou. I'm not a cheater. I'm wasn't in violation of the rules. I merely used a flaw they left in their system. And the rest of KaW should thank us. Developers have been stealing your gold via ally resets for years. We found a way to strike back at them in a way that wasn't cheating/hacking/discount nobs/buying accts. Also around 500-700t in allies have just been dropped on the market with no owner. You may not thank us now but your cheap bfa in the coming weeks will thank us. Consider us robinhoods if you will. I apologize to anyone I informed of this glitch that has had their accounts deleted. I'm truly sorry. I feel completely responsible for it although I know everyone made their own decisions. The information I gave you was too good to not act on and anyone in the position of recording the info I gave would have done the same. So I feel it wasn't even a decision on their parts. They saw me making trillions and didnt want to be left behind because we all thought everyone was doing it. To those of you who listened to me, I sincerely apologize. I'm very sorry and wish o could replace all that was lost. Sorry guys I know I screwed a lot of you. I feel horrible. Almost to the point of tears. Sorry from the bottom of my heart. And on that note.... Happy KaWing to the rest of you
I'm going to have to agree with Mickey to a point on this ... These players took advantage of a glitch in the system nothing more ... I'd agree with stripping them of all allies pots bars ect... But breaking down buildings they had before the glitch seems like going too far to me When tower builds we're exploiting the system did the devs strip them of all the mith and equip they "earned" while using the in game exploit .... No They gave them full refunds for towers and have a nice day While tou breakers get off with little or no punishment at all or a 2 month break from kaw? That's where I think the real issue is
It seems to me the reaction to this exploit is extreme. Where was the hatchet during all the ee war exploits? That cost more damage to the KaW community than this has. Where is my refunded Rancor, mith and crystals. If this heavy punishment stands I expect the same standard of punishment going forward on ALL exploits and breaches of ToU. And botters had better not be seen in KaW ever again.
Kind of on the fence here. When it comes to exploiting a glitch - i wouldnt feel any moral obligation to abstain. (Dummied down - if someone told me about this glitch, i would have done it and not felt bad). Compare that to buying banks which is against the tou - regardless if i would do it or not, i know it is against the rules and there are consequences for getting caught (supposedly).
@Devs. What's next reset everyone who performed a land burn or go after old pwar money? If u design system poorly full of so called exploits and fail testing it properly then who's fault is it. It's sure not the players fault. They play the game u provide us. Destroying accounts because of ur failure is absurd. They didn't break tou, give the legal accounts back to the players.
As a legitimate nob buyer I don't think it was extreme and sends a clear message: just because the keys are left in the car, you can't just hop in and drive away if its not yours. I really don't care how the people who glitched try to spin it. Personally I wouldn't have risked my account to do it. Don't forget the funds were used to grow accounts for EE, to strip, etc. These are things which cannot be compensated to the rest of us so I have no sympathy.
BLACKFANDO, by KaW's logic, farming is against the Terms of Use. Where it says that disrupting players enjoyment of Kingdoms at War is disallowed, it means the by farming some one who doesn't want to be farmed is breaking Terms of Use.Because it is disrupting their gameplay and it is disturbing their enjoyment of the game. Woah. Major screw over there... But yeah. Fair play by the devs. It would just suck... They probably didn't realize that the devs could find then out, or that they performed scheduled checks of the games codes and server. Sucks to be them.
Yah complete bull ****. And you notice how the whales who were said to have been in on the scam have remained untouched. That alleged amnesty for their monetary contribution is sickening and completely unjust. Money not only buys stats here fellas. It buys the Devs' silent obedience
Yes Cyn certain players(we shall call them whales) have not had their builds touched and are currently having gold refunded to their accounts. Mind you this is only happening with a select few who exploited same as I did. A few leaderboard accts for example are now being refunded what the developers took from them for glitching. Some ppl have only the gold removed that they glitched and some are having It all removed based off how much you spend on Kaw. I know some ppl (moose etc) will come debate this fact, but it is true
"..said to have been in on the scam..". Maybe it's just haters who assumed they were? I've been accused of unsubstantiated crap myself by hurt targets. Just sayin..
Or maybe you don't care as your friends get to keep what they got Lolz Point being, the Devs preach fairness, yet play favorites, especially in cases such as these. This situation is the best example of developer bias towards certain players and certain clans.
micky. I won't debate to strenuously, because people will chose sides and believe what they will, regardless of what either one of us says. I will say, however, that at the end of the day, these arguments boil down to a case of "he said. She said" and no one can really win a debate with those conditions.
MY GOD. How hard is it to grasp. DO NOT EXPLOIT THE SYSTEM. For those who cannot handle multi-syllable words. DO NOT CHEAT. And yes it is cheating. Any argument to the contrary is bollocks. The "ATM spitting money out so you take it" is a great example. If the camera on the ATM sees you taking that money then expect a visit form the law. A cashiers drawer opens unattended is not permission to take the money either. A Wells Fargo truck hits a bump and bag of money falls out the back IT IS NOT NOW YOURS. Finders does not mean keeper. Sorry. If you didn't earn it or pay for it then it is not yours. The devs have told you multiple times about this. When you find an loophole/Exploit - REPORT IT. Dont tell your buddies about it then sit in pal rooms deciding how to use the exploit to unbank funds, grow clans, cheat other players out of their hard earned gold by stripping them with your cheated gold, and then cry in the forums about it later when it all falls apart. And the excuse of "it was posted in the forums in a locked thread and not patched immediately so I assumed the devs were ok with me making trillions an hour" is one of the most lame thing I have ever heard. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15931&p=533587&hilit=+exploit#p533587 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=25985&p=820913&hilit=+exploit#p820913 Those who cheated are, IMO, lucky to have gotten off so lightly. Sure they had the gold/allies/buildings removed to reverse their ill begotten earnings but what about the tens of trillions they unbanked? All the crap allies that were hired from and dropped off of banks to free up funds to strip players of their honestly earned gold later? This cheat did not just help the cheater. It paved the way for massive advantage and offensive action against other players. It sits poorly with me that so few are being banned over this. Count your blessings you still have an account and quit crying that your cheating came with such minor consequences.
I didn't even know about it. I bought nobs.. Maybe that's why? But I see where some will take this. It's a big conspiracy theory only against certain clans and couldn't possibly be that those clans glitched and others didn't, right? Really? Sounds paranoid and self serving.
My only problem is with the lvl of punishment these guys are taking ... When all they did was an exploit as I stated before tower builds exploiting the system didn't have anything stripped they gained from their exploit yet these people are getting hit more then they got in some cases And all the while real tou breakers and botters are still playing and keeping all their ill gotten gains
As a matter of fact all those tower builds exploiting ee wars were given full refunds for their builds and kept all their mith and equip they gained ... While all the poor players that had to fight them in war wasted real money and time ... Wheres the "justice" for them ?