Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc

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Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

"Without cheating?" "It's not possible"

^^ that, to me, clearly looks like an accusation of cheating which is against the tou.
 
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Smokintough said:
"Without cheating?" "It's not possible"

^^ that, to me, clearly looks like an accusation of cheating which is against the tou.
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The wall.. I mean the Russian didn't specifically accuse anyone so not a violation.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Smokintough said:
"Without cheating?" "It's not possible"

^^ that, to me, clearly looks like an accusation of cheating which is against the tou.
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Awe..too bad I didn't say it the way u did. I asked if it was possible. Try better next time :)
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

lllRUSSIANllIllllSPYlll said:
Smokintough said:
"Without cheating?" "It's not possible"

^^ that, to me, clearly looks like an accusation of cheating which is against the tou.
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Awe..too bad I didn't say it the way u did. I asked if it was possible. Try better next time :)
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Now there's the accusation you were looking for smokin.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Actually it was an accusation of nightmare. It might not have been in the same posts, but an accusation is still an accusation.

Also that was the way you said it.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Well someone almost put out the dumpster fire we call the raving Russian. But here she is spewing diarrhea of the mouth and making accusations trying to get this thread locked. I guess if your alliance can't fight their way out of a paper bag, you have to resort to these kind of tactics.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

lllRUSSIANllIllllSPYlll said:
Without cheating? U missed that I assume?

Not possible in 2 min with the number of allies Harb had. It would've been a mess, slow mess - few buyers buying same allies at the same time, unintentionally volleying them and wasting gold - just one of the problems u come across in a strip, unless allies are assigned.
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Exact quote. You said it is not possible without cheating and you have been talking about nightmare.
Can you backpeddle from this?
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Just drop pots and play dead, maybe you can catch a strip and upgrade. You guys are a disappointment to war clans everywhere.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Smokintough said:
Actually it was an accusation of nightmare. It might not have been in the same posts, but an accusation is still an accusation.

Also that was the way you said it.
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Asking a question of how he got the list of bp allies isn't an accusation. I was genuinely interested. Then Val said there's a website. Try again? Lol
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Raving Russian doesn't backpedal lol.

It will just jump to a new random topic to get verbally destroyed again.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

@Russian you have missed the fact that Apoc has a large number of ally traders as members

And its actually very easy to assign amounts to search on the market to different people and allies found were put into a SS over the weeks

For example i myself had assigned allies - took me 30 seconds to hire them all then 1 min in it was a mop up operation - i like most frontliners had a few extra T out - and yes we ended up hiring off each other etc

but he was naked in 2 mins


And it wasnt through magic dust and a jolly dancing spell

We have been stripping leaderboard longer than any websites and programmes existed - this isnt new to us using market to find allies

Liebling was a prime example last Zaft war - hell we spent weeks and weeks searching - but we got enough for sizable strips
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Smokintough said:
lllRUSSIANllIllllSPYlll said:
Without cheating? U missed that I assume?

Not possible in 2 min with the number of allies Harb had. It would've been a mess, slow mess - few buyers buying same allies at the same time, unintentionally volleying them and wasting gold - just one of the problems u come across in a strip, unless allies are assigned.
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Exact quote. You said it is not possible without cheating and you have been talking about nightmare.
Can you backpeddle from this?
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Ur arguments have always been weak. I'd like to see if a mod thinks that I accused anyone?

I asked if it was possible. And I was talking in general, nothing to do with apoc or mare specifically. Why are u trying to defend them anyway? If cheats are available through some website, and let's assume one of the sides in some random osw uses those cheats, do u think the side that isn't cheating can win? Hypothetically speaking?
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

That's why you said words such as "you" and "you're" when describing the supposed "cheaters".

Good try raving Russian, but we quoted it.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Actually I'm sure I can clear this up. When there are LB players in an alliance there is usually a list kept by the alliance to manage clean and dirty allies on back pages. Sometimes those lists can get leaked. Just like there was a list of QueenVasia's allies both clean and dirty to hire from during oG wars. Surely you would've seen that list too unless you weren't in those rooms.

Also there are people in alliances whose soul purpose is to track allies to discover banks, funders etc. I personally know of 3 people from oG that watched sugars allies for lengthy periods, even after OSW. Some people just have the tenacity to always be prepared at any point.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

I think Vixen, answered a good question.

It's great groundwork, not forgetting the target this time actually hung onto his allies.

It just takes time and effort.

IG and sub clans used to do this too.
It's nothing new.

But it takes lots of people, lots of time, and upfront Gold, lots of it.

After that the strip is easy peasy.

It's the difference between a good strip and a great strip.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

iIlii-____iI-N4T3_Iillii______ said:
Actually I'm sure I can clear this up. When there are LB players in an alliance there is usually a list kept by the alliance to manage clean and dirty allies on back pages. Sometimes those lists can get leaked. Just like there was a list of QueenVasia's allies both clean and dirty to hire from during oG wars. Surely you would've seen that list too unless you weren't in those rooms.

Also there are people in alliances whose soul purpose is to track allies to discover banks, funders etc. I personally know of 3 people from oG that watched sugars allies for lengthy periods, even after OSW. Some people just have the tenacity to always be prepared at any point.
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Not sure what QV list example has to do with this subject. Not like Harb would pass u guys his list, if he had one. Anyways. Theoretically, tracking and all - it is possible. Were u guys also tracking chongo's allies? The list we got? Do u guys just track allies even of players u aren't targeting cos u bored or something?
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

-TROLL_MaCHiNE- said:
That's why you said words such as "you" and "you're" when describing the supposed "cheaters".

Good try raving Russian, but we quoted it.
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I'm done with u guys taking my words out of context. I'll wait for a mod to read my posts fully and tell me if I accused anyone in particular :)
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Ok you're pointing out the fact we had a list of a lb players allies. We are one of the largest osw alliances in the game. Who's to say we don't track and list any, if not all, lb players and their allies. Are you claiming to know inner workings of apoc? And please do get a mod to check in and see what they think. I'm thinking about it myself.
 
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