okay the word is Zaft LB member Harbringer of Wrath was just stripped an obscene amount. The number 400T is floating around. wondering what brave soul had the courage to do this just days before the new lands were to come out. Update: Not sure what kind of incoming is happening, but several Apoc clans have declared war on Zaft Carnage as a whole. Okay, from what i gather, Harb was doing the same thing Bom was doing, basically hit hiring. About 2 days ago, he hit hired off of two members of Apoc, apparently hitting one to the tune of 500B. He then threatened to strip another member of Apoc who tried to discuss the problem. Apoc as a whole had enough of these antics, and decided to teach him a lesson much like WDGAF did to Bom. This is a separate incident with no apparent relationship the the NA/Yafi dispute. Once again this is all Apoc doing. Update: Harb disputes the above explanation given by Apoc. Will possibly release his own thread soon. Update: Harb has released his own thread, calling Apoc cowards who have apparently begged Zaft for cf before. Harb states Zaft will never cf on Apoc again. In regards to hit-hires, accused IMf of hypocrisy, saying he regularly hit-hires as well. Harb says he hasn't hired-hit off of apoc in three months, but Apoc is telling me it was in the last few days. Update: Attempted strip on hfcevm, 40T probably only half taken. Update: this OSW is defintely on. Harb says Zaft will drag Apoc to Hell with them. Update: TS stripped Zalgo in Zaft faith clean. Day Two Updates: Zaft clans that have been confirmed to be in this apoc war besides Carnage are Ultra Clan, Faith and Fury.(add Zaft Corp to this) Apoc apparently heard rumours of a planned Fury strip and decided to strip first. Dirty Larry was stripped 8T(don't know how much taken) , Foxiee in Ultra clan stripped 4.7T Attempted 15T strip of Powerpugs in Ultra clan. Zaft Ghost Legendz is getting incoming from Sparta Elite. No reported strips so far. Day 3 Updates: The Zaft/WDGAF alliance is dead. No ill-will but no WDGAF clans will be riding to the rescue this time. There is some talk of kicking Harb to get a CF. After all, it was Harb's alleged actions that lead to the OSW, and apparently not all members of Zaft agree with those actions. Updates: Zaft UL is defintely being left alone. Members in UL are hitting NA. strip on ps -Jaeger (GL) 6T cleaned Corrupted_d4l3knight fury 50t , left 15T Day 4 Update: here is a partial list of Apoc strips. Harbinger_of_wrath 300t+: cleared Hfcevm 40t: 25t taken Foxiee 4.7t: cleared Dirtylarry 7t: 3.5t taken Powerpugs 15t : 11t taken Corrupted darkight 43T, 27T taken Gor-illa 3.5T cleared lIlIl________Steve______lIllI 4.5T Omets are going to help Zaft apparently because they lack the common sense to leave a clan at OSW. (What exactly is the reasoning Fury's Vengance has also entered the war. Update: Zaft some sources are saying the rumor of harb bieng kicked is false. Zaft will stand by their clanmate. 49 days later Silph, Cella, REdstar, and UL leader Kai all left Zaft UL. Two days later they told the rest of the clan they had real life/ work issues that interferred with their ability to OSW. Rest of Zaft UL was absorded into Zaft. There have been strips both sides, but Apoc seems to be more persistent with daily strips in the 100-500B range and about a once-a-week strip of a few Trillion. Zaft Carnage still holding out with 84 members. Chaos, and dirty Larry made a big deal of finishing top ten in the resent PVP event which shows Zaft still had fight in them despite being pressed by Apoc.