Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc

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Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Lol never been in osw I don't run from anything, I was in bg most of 2014
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

JB I have expressed genuine concerns and ask questions pertaining to the strip and osw. The size of anyones whatever is no concern to me and your post is as much derailment as theirs.

so I ask again and hopefully the mindless will remain quiet and someone who has legitimate answers will chime in the topic. What if anything is this OSW gonna change? Apoc seems to be more a oppressor than Zaft at this point so the argument they did this because Harb thought himself above the rules is not very convincing.

The Apoc members posting this thread paint a very different picture. Seems that they hold themselves above the rules even before the task of over throwing Zaft has happened.

So Apoc leadership tell us how this is changing KaW for the greater good or is this just another clan full of cyber bullies with delusions of grandeur?
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

No one said we were above the "rules" although these "rules" you're speaking of are non-existent. Our members were hire hit by harb and was stripped for it. No one said anything about apoc doing this for the betterment of KaW. People need to stop going on about what valiant individuals we claim to be when no one has said we were.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Ok so we are to take that the "hire hitting" that was claimed by your members to be against these rules was in fact an accepted practice? Because if it is then why the OSW? Your clan claims that this was the reason for strip and osw .
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

The_Philosopher said:
okay the word is Zaft LB member Harbringer of Wrath was just stripped an obscene amount. The number 400T is floating around. wondering what brave soul had the courage to do this just days before the new lands were to come out.



Update: Not sure what kind of incoming is happening, but several Apoc clans have declared war on Zaft Carnage as a whole.


Okay, from what i gather, Harb was doing the same thing Bom was doing, basically hit hiring. About 2 days ago, he hit hired off of two members of Apoc, apparently hitting one to the tune of 500B. He then threatened to strip another member of Apoc who tried to discuss the problem. Apoc as a whole had enough of these antics, and decided to teach him a lesson much like WDGAF did to Bom. This is a separate incident with no apparent relationship the the NA/Yafi dispute.

Once again this is all Apoc doing.

Update: Harb disputes the above explanation given by Apoc. Will possibly release his own thread soon.

Update:

Harb has released his own thread, calling Apoc cowards who have apparently begged Zaft for cf before. Harb states Zaft will never cf on Apoc again. In regards to hit-hires, accused IMf of hypocrisy, saying he regularly hit-hires as well. Harb says he hasn't hired-hit off of apoc in three months, but Apoc is telling me it was in the last few days.

Update:

Attempted strip on hfcevm, 40T probably only half taken.

Update: this OSW is defintely on. Harb says Zaft will drag Apoc to Hell with them.

Update: TS stripped Zalgo in Zaft faith clean.

Day Two

Updates:

Zaft clans that have been confirmed to be in this apoc war besides Carnage are Ultra Clan, Faith and Fury.(add Zaft Corp to this)
Apoc apparently heard rumours of a planned Fury strip and decided to strip first. Dirty Larry was stripped 8T(don't know how much taken) , Foxiee in Ultra clan stripped 4.7T

Attempted 15T strip of Powerpugs in Ultra clan.
Zaft Ghost Legendz is getting incoming from Sparta Elite. No reported strips so far.

Day 3

Updates:

The Zaft/WDGAF alliance is dead. No ill-will but no WDGAF clans will be riding to the rescue this time.

There is some talk of kicking Harb to get a CF. After all, it was Harb's alleged actions that lead to the OSW, and apparently not all members of Zaft agree with those actions.

Updates:

Zaft UL is defintely being left alone. Members in UL are hitting NA.

strip on ps -Jaeger (GL) 6T cleaned

Corrupted_d4l3knight fury 50t , left 15T

Day 4

Update:

here is a partial list of Apoc strips.

Harbinger_of_wrath 300t+: cleared
Hfcevm 40t: 25t taken
Foxiee 4.7t: cleared
Dirtylarry 7t: 3.5t taken
Powerpugs 15t : 11t taken
Corrupted darkight 43T, 27T taken
Gor-illa 3.5T cleared
lIlIl________Steve______lIllI 4.5T

Omets are going to help Zaft apparently because they lack the common sense to leave a clan at OSW. (What exactly is the reasoning
Fury's Vengance has also entered the war.

Update:

Zaft some sources are saying the rumor of harb bieng kicked is false. Zaft will stand by their clanmate.
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Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

The_Philosopher said:
okay the word is Zaft LB member Harbringer of Wrath was just stripped an obscene amount. The number 400T is floating around. wondering what brave soul had the courage to do this just days before the new lands were to come out.



Update: Not sure what kind of incoming is happening, but several Apoc clans have declared war on Zaft Carnage as a whole.


Okay, from what i gather, Harb was doing the same thing Bom was doing, basically hit hiring. About 2 days ago, he hit hired off of two members of Apoc, apparently hitting one to the tune of 500B. He then threatened to strip another member of Apoc who tried to discuss the problem. Apoc as a whole had enough of these antics, and decided to teach him a lesson much like WDGAF did to Bom. This is a separate incident with no apparent relationship the the NA/Yafi dispute.

Once again this is all Apoc doing.

Update: Harb disputes the above explanation given by Apoc. Will possibly release his own thread soon.

Update:

Harb has released his own thread, calling Apoc cowards who have apparently begged Zaft for cf before. Harb states Zaft will never cf on Apoc again. In regards to hit-hires, accused IMf of hypocrisy, saying he regularly hit-hires as well. Harb says he hasn't hired-hit off of apoc in three months, but Apoc is telling me it was in the last few days.

Update:

Attempted strip on hfcevm, 40T probably only half taken.

Update: this OSW is defintely on. Harb says Zaft will drag Apoc to Hell with them.

Update: TS stripped Zalgo in Zaft faith clean.

Day Two

Updates:

Zaft clans that have been confirmed to be in this apoc war besides Carnage are Ultra Clan, Faith and Fury.(add Zaft Corp to this)
Apoc apparently heard rumours of a planned Fury strip and decided to strip first. Dirty Larry was stripped 8T(don't know how much taken) , Foxiee in Ultra clan stripped 4.7T

Attempted 15T strip of Powerpugs in Ultra clan.
Zaft Ghost Legendz is getting incoming from Sparta Elite. No reported strips so far.

Day 3

Updates:

The Zaft/WDGAF alliance is dead. No ill-will but no WDGAF clans will be riding to the rescue this time.

There is some talk of kicking Harb to get a CF. After all, it was Harb's alleged actions that lead to the OSW, and apparently not all members of Zaft agree with those actions.

Updates:

Zaft UL is defintely being left alone. Members in UL are hitting NA.

strip on ps -Jaeger (GL) 6T cleaned

Corrupted_d4l3knight fury 50t , left 15T

Day 4

Update:

here is a partial list of Apoc strips.

Harbinger_of_wrath 300t+: cleared
Hfcevm 40t: 25t taken
Foxiee 4.7t: cleared
Dirtylarry 7t: 3.5t taken
Powerpugs 15t : 11t taken
Corrupted darkight 43T, 27T taken
Gor-illa 3.5T cleared
lIlIl________Steve______lIllI 4.5T

Omets are going to help Zaft apparently because they lack the common sense to leave a clan at OSW. (What exactly is the reasoning
Fury's Vengance has also entered the war.

Update:

Zaft some sources are saying the rumor of harb bieng kicked is false. Zaft will stand by their clanmate.
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Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

The_Philosopher said:
okay the word is Zaft LB member Harbringer of Wrath was just stripped an obscene amount. The number 400T is floating around. wondering what brave soul had the courage to do this just days before the new lands were to come out.



Update: Not sure what kind of incoming is happening, but several Apoc clans have declared war on Zaft Carnage as a whole.


Okay, from what i gather, Harb was doing the same thing Bom was doing, basically hit hiring. About 2 days ago, he hit hired off of two members of Apoc, apparently hitting one to the tune of 500B. He then threatened to strip another member of Apoc who tried to discuss the problem. Apoc as a whole had enough of these antics, and decided to teach him a lesson much like WDGAF did to Bom. This is a separate incident with no apparent relationship the the NA/Yafi dispute.

Once again this is all Apoc doing.

Update: Harb disputes the above explanation given by Apoc. Will possibly release his own thread soon.

Update:

Harb has released his own thread, calling Apoc cowards who have apparently begged Zaft for cf before. Harb states Zaft will never cf on Apoc again. In regards to hit-hires, accused IMf of hypocrisy, saying he regularly hit-hires as well. Harb says he hasn't hired-hit off of apoc in three months, but Apoc is telling me it was in the last few days.

Update:

Attempted strip on hfcevm, 40T probably only half taken.

Update: this OSW is defintely on. Harb says Zaft will drag Apoc to Hell with them.

Update: TS stripped Zalgo in Zaft faith clean.

Day Two

Updates:

Zaft clans that have been confirmed to be in this apoc war besides Carnage are Ultra Clan, Faith and Fury.(add Zaft Corp to this)
Apoc apparently heard rumours of a planned Fury strip and decided to strip first. Dirty Larry was stripped 8T(don't know how much taken) , Foxiee in Ultra clan stripped 4.7T

Attempted 15T strip of Powerpugs in Ultra clan.
Zaft Ghost Legendz is getting incoming from Sparta Elite. No reported strips so far.

Day 3

Updates:

The Zaft/WDGAF alliance is dead. No ill-will but no WDGAF clans will be riding to the rescue this time.

There is some talk of kicking Harb to get a CF. After all, it was Harb's alleged actions that lead to the OSW, and apparently not all members of Zaft agree with those actions.

Updates:

Zaft UL is defintely being left alone. Members in UL are hitting NA.

strip on ps -Jaeger (GL) 6T cleaned

Corrupted_d4l3knight fury 50t , left 15T

Day 4

Update:

here is a partial list of Apoc strips.

Harbinger_of_wrath 300t+: cleared
Hfcevm 40t: 25t taken
Foxiee 4.7t: cleared
Dirtylarry 7t: 3.5t taken
Powerpugs 15t : 11t taken
Corrupted darkight 43T, 27T taken
Gor-illa 3.5T cleared
lIlIl________Steve______lIllI 4.5T

Omets are going to help Zaft apparently because they lack the common sense to leave a clan at OSW. (What exactly is the reasoning
Fury's Vengance has also entered the war.

Update:

Zaft some sources are saying the rumor of harb bieng kicked is false. Zaft will stand by their clanmate.
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Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

I believe it was stated by nightmare, no one will consider hire hitting Apoc after this war. You can call it bullying, call it gang mentality, call it whatever you want but this is what the game is all about. Dominate your foes and stay on top, which is exactly what Apoc will do.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Smokintough said:
I believe it was stated by nightmare, no one will consider hire hitting Apoc after this war. You can call it bullying, call it gang mentality, call it whatever you want but this is what the game is all about. Dominate your foes and stay on top, which is exactly what Apoc will do.
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I think the game is all about staying on topic like SmokeNtug says
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

but you just said this rule was "Non-Existent" now you are saying it is in fact a rule. Which is it ?

Don't get me wrong im all for an open alley market where I don't have to worry about hire hits but haven't your clans in fact been involved in this same practice? Not sure exactly where but did I not see SS supporting that?

Sorry to ask so many questions just trying to get it all str8.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

True NOTORIOUS and I believe (correct me if im wrong) are discussing topics pertaining to the thread. You on the other hand are posting mindless spam that has no substance or relevance to anything.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

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Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

read the topic of the post. 300T strip on harbinger. What was my post before my last one? Talking about the strip. Stop trying to derail the thread or leave, you have no relevance to this as you aren't talking about the strip or our war you're just trying to twist words and derail the thread.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Ok Smoke lets go back. I didn't say You said it was a rule so no Im not twisting your words.

I said "Your clan" said Harb thought himself above the rules. this Statement has been made numerous times on several threads. That's what I said

You said "The rules that I was speaking of were Non-Existent" that being the Harb thinking himself above the no hire hitting rule
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

yadayadayada123 said:
but you just said this rule was "Non-Existent" now you are saying it is in fact a rule. Which is it ?

Don't get me wrong im all for an open alley market where I don't have to worry about hire hits but haven't your clans in fact been involved in this same practice? Not sure exactly where but did I not see SS supporting that?

Sorry to ask so many questions just trying to get it all str8.
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Read this post. Go take a class on debating, since you obviously need it, then get back to me when you can put up a fight in an argument because you are making yourself look like a fool. Good tip, dont backtrack on things you say, own up to it instead.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

yadayadayada123 said:
JB I have expressed genuine concerns and ask questions pertaining to the strip and osw. The size of anyones whatever is no concern to me and your post is as much derailment as theirs.

so I ask again and hopefully the mindless will remain quiet and someone who has legitimate answers will chime in the topic. What if anything is this OSW gonna change? Apoc seems to be more a oppressor than Zaft at this point so the argument they did this because Harb thought himself above the rules is not very convincing.

The Apoc members posting this thread paint a very different picture. Seems that they hold themselves above the rules even before the task of over throwing Zaft has happened.

So Apoc leadership tell us how this is changing KaW for the greater good or is this just another clan full of cyber bullies with delusions of grandeur?
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Not sure where i start with this one. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, of course they are its a free app, however sometimes subtle things can give away what someone is actually saying. For example your quote ' the task of over throwing Zaft.' Things always make me view people's 'unbiased' opinions, not so unbiased.
Anyhow let's call a spade a spade. This is a war game, technically no one actually needs a reason to fight, in fact it's kinda in the game title. However what Apoc has done has given their reason of why they stripped Harb, and it's their reason, you may not agree with it but it is what it is. Someone being an oppressor suggests total physical and psychological domination over someone who has no desire or ability to fight. Are you saying this is the case here? Apocs actions or reasons don't show that they are lying but they had enough and decided to act. Now whether you decide to accept that or not is entirely up to you, but it disproves your point.
What if anything is this osw gonna change? There's already been changes, we know for sure no one is beyond being stripped, people will think twice about hire hits ( of course it'll not eradicate them entirely ), the LB has changed, clans have changed, friendships broken, new ones formed ..... I could go on and on but I thought you said you weren't new so I'm sure you're familiar with all this.

Bottom line is you asked, I answered to the best of my knowledge. Hopefully that'll clear things up for you or you may have had a predetermined thought on all of this prior to posting so anything I or anyone else says won't make a difference.
Either way, sit back and enjoy the outcome whatever it may be.

JB 
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Ok so in other words you have no answers and im not debating anything. I believe I asked for the mindless to remain quiet yet you piped up anyway. Thanks for wasting my time with the runaround.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Noone being beyond being stripped would have been proven if the Largest holder of alleys had been stripped but that isn't the case. Thanks again
 
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