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[MTLB_ODESSA_MTLB]

So, as pertinent new information is being gathered, Invincible99 aka K__ARMY__K, within a third party app has offered to sell accounts that were in ASW clans. Here is the proof:

so rock solid proof someone had accounts in imposing teams & on top of that trying to sell both of them 


I GUARANTEE ATA will do nothing 

 

[Original_Belladonna]

You’re right, Odessa, they said they won’t accept screenshots as proof, even when it is being openly discussed. Devs are in on this. The entire ASW’s are a sham. Everyone knows it. There will be a more informative thread later on regarding testimonials from war-participants regarding this and other issues.

 

[MTLB_ODESSA_MTLB]

Lol I sent in numerous SS of Val (and his cheerleading buddy Glen) admitting to and bargaining for accounts to sale

Dumb dumb Glen Posted in my wall to “leave Val alone, he doesn’t KAW he only builds and sells accounts”  I even posted SS of that in forums, nothing zilch nada lol they did NOTHING 


3 days later they just didn’t ban that account ...it literally disappeared without a trace 

 

[MTLB_ODESSA_MTLB]

You’re right, Odessa, they said they won’t accept screenshots as proof, even when it is being openly discussed. Devs are in on this. The entire ASW’s are a sham. Everyone knows it. There will be a more informative thread later on regarding testimonials from war-participants regarding this and other issues.

LOL I’m telling you ATA is complicit ...they probably run the forums board where accts are sold and it wouldn’t surprise me if they actually set up 1 or 2 of the 3 available bot programs available to download  ...seriously

 

[B2B-Warrior-B2B]

Lol

 

[B2B-Warrior-B2B]

So, as pertinent new information is being gathered, Invincible99 aka K__ARMY__K, within a third party app has offered to sell accounts that were in ASW clans. Here is the proof:

K__army__k
Bought 2 Porsche with that money you know !! 

 

[Original_Belladonna]

Well, this is the start of something larger. Buying and selling accounts outside of KaW for real currency is nothing compared to some of the leakers and moles that were within the clans of ASW.

 

[MTLB_ODESSA_MTLB]

Well IF one can prove ATA knew about and did nothing when they could have combined with the rhetoric they’ve given us in forums and on tickets sent in it would absolutely definitely be considered and cause for felony fraud charges ....the problem is actually proving this in a court of law.

And they know this. That’s why they do nothing, because they know they won’t get caught. Online gaming really needs to be regulated and as a conservative I hate government regulation but in this and other similar cases it’s obviously needed.

It’s slowly coming scumbags like ATA will eventually have to pay the price let’s just hope gaming culture and regulations catch up to them before they bail out and embark on some other criminal venture

 

[MTLB_ODESSA_MTLB]

proof positve and absolutely do nothing ANYONE reading this and still defending ATA are scumbags too

 

[Original_Belladonna]

Well IF one can prove ATA knew about and did nothing when they could have combined with the rhetoric they’ve given us in forums and on tickets sent in it would absolutely definitely be considered and cause for felony fraud charges ....the problem is actually proving this in a court of law.

And they know this. That’s why they do nothing, because they know they won’t get caught. Online gaming really needs to be regulated and as a conservative I hate government regulation but in this and other similar cases it’s obviously needed.

It’s slowly coming scumbags like ATA will eventually have to pay the price let’s just hope gaming culture and regulations catch up to them before they bail out and embark on some other criminal benture

Of course they’re complicit with it, they’ve been given proof and refuse to do anything. It won’t go to a court of law because of the current regulations we do have for online gaming. When you hit accept at the beginning, they disavow any responsibility and whatever you lose, you lose. It’s horrible.

 

[MTLB_ODESSA_MTLB]

Well IF one can prove ATA knew about and did nothing when they could have combined with the rhetoric they’ve given us in forums and on tickets sent in it would absolutely definitely be considered and cause for felony fraud charges ....the problem is actually proving this in a court of law.

And they know this. That’s why they do nothing, because they know they won’t get caught. Online gaming really needs to be regulated and as a conservative I hate government regulation but in this and other similar cases it’s obviously needed.

It’s slowly coming scumbags like ATA will eventually have to pay the price let’s just hope gaming culture and regulations catch up to them before they bail out and embark on some other criminal benture

Of course they’re complicit with it, they’ve been given proof and refuse to do anything. It won’t go to a court of law because of the current regulations we do have for online gaming. When you hit accept at the beginning, they disavow any responsibility and whatever you lose, you lose. It’s horrible.

thas not true bella evem wth a contract you can’t commit fraud ....you can’t use a contract to circumvent the law. That’s a Supreme Court ruling


Trust me I know law

 

[Original_Belladonna]

Well IF one can prove ATA knew about and did nothing when they could have combined with the rhetoric they’ve given us in forums and on tickets sent in it would absolutely definitely be considered and cause for felony fraud charges ....the problem is actually proving this in a court of law.

And they know this. That’s why they do nothing, because they know they won’t get caught. Online gaming really needs to be regulated and as a conservative I hate government regulation but in this and other similar cases it’s obviously needed.

It’s slowly coming scumbags like ATA will eventually have to pay the price let’s just hope gaming culture and regulations catch up to them before they bail out and embark on some other criminal benture

Of course they’re complicit with it, they’ve been given proof and refuse to do anything. It won’t go to a court of law because of the current regulations we do have for online gaming. When you hit accept at the beginning, they disavow any responsibility and whatever you lose, you lose. It’s horrible.

thas not true bella evem wth a contract you can’t commit fraud ....you can’t use a contract to circumvent the law. That’s a Supreme Court ruling


Trust me I know law

Online gaming isn’t governed by US Law when the company is outside of the US.

 

[MTLB_ODESSA_MTLB]

Online gaming isn’t governed by US Law when the company is outside of the US.

Doesn’t matter if you can prove fraud it has absolutely no bearing if it’s from gaming ...fraud is fraud

 

[MTLB_ODESSA_MTLB]

And it honestly doesn’t matter what you’ve signed like I said you CAN NOT use a contract to circumvent the law PERIOD and yes they can hold ATA accountable even though they are in Canada

Canada and USA have inter commerce agreements ...I promise you they can

 

[MTLB_ODESSA_MTLB]

But like I said actually proving ATA Is complicit is next to impossible. Yould have to get a federal warrant to look through ALL their digital files to find proof or get an ATA dev/employee to admit it.

lol and I seriously doubt either one of those happens in any of our KAW lifetimes

 

[MTLB_ODESSA_MTLB]

Honestly the only place you could maybe possibly get charges put on them is in Hawaii ...they are the most progressive and forward thinking when it comes to gaming regulation

 

[Kezzer]

To clarify a few things...

I have already passed the screenshots of the supposed moling onto the ATA team to look into. It's not like the mods are ignoring people about this. The ATA team can confirm we pass on allegations to them for them to investigate.

"Proof" from 3rd party apps can just as easily be fake as it can be real which is a pain. This information can be used as a cause for suspicion which can lead to the ATA team looking into it using their own data. Anyone can create an account on a 3rd party app with whatever name they choose so it's almost impossible to prove a 3rd party account is the same as a kaw account even if their name is the same. Yes it can raise suspicion but it won't be enough proof alone.

 

[MTLB_ODESSA_MTLB]

To clarify a few things...

I have already passed the screenshots of the supposed moling onto the ATA team to look into. It's not like the mods are ignoring people about this. The ATA team can confirm we pass on allegations to them for them to investigate.

"Proof" from 3rd party apps can just as easily be fake as it can be real which is a pain. This information can be used as a cause for suspicion which can lead to the ATA team looking into it using their own data. Anyone can create an account on a 3rd party app with whatever name they choose so it's almost impossible to prove a 3rd party account is the same as a kaw account even if their name is the same. Yes it can raise suspicion but it won't be enough proof alone.

Most app and game devs have an unspoken agreement with each other ...it would be NOTHING for ATA to ask that third party app for the IP address that sale offer got sent from


....trust me this happens all the time (all the time)

 

[MTLB_ODESSA_MTLB]

Supercell who developed CoC had the EXACT same problem with botting and account selling ....they managed to clean house. Why can’t ATA? Because they’re not
Motivated to, that’s why. Directly or indirectly it benefits ATA

 

[Dave]

Supercell who developed CoC had the EXACT same problem with botting and account selling ....they managed to clean house. Why can’t ATA? Because they’re not
Motivated to, that’s why. Directly or indirectly it benefits ATA

I think the issue with an out of games screen shot is it could be photo shopped.

Devs are looking into all reports and will take appropriate action if foul play is proven. Every Mod will pass on info to devs as thats what part of our role is as a moderator.