*OoS-Imitation-Cheese (01)
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I believe I've heard every possible argument regarding the "No Forums" policies of certain clans. I'm going to list them here, and then we can discuss the pros/cons of the policies and whether you agree with the reasons certain clans have implemented this policy.
Reason #1
By far, the most common reason given is that "forums is the land of noobs."
My Response
This is the most hypocritical reason there is. Not only do I regularly see your members lurking in forums on a 24/7 basis, this is also the place where many of your clanmates came to learn basic game mechanics and got their EB help. It's where they came to get answers to most of the questions they had when they were starting to learn this game.
Forums is the largest collection of fundamental KaW knowledge.
Yes, there are many, many annoying noobs here, but there are also some really brilliant minds who come here to contribute a great deal of game mechanics knowledge, so I don't buy this argument.
If this place is the land of noobs, why have you been so up to date with what gets posted here? Every single time a claim is made by a clan without a "No Forum" policy, you're so quick to blow up Phil's PM? We're noobs - why waste your time giving someone your side of the story if you don't give a crap about what we think about you, especially if you know for a fact that the first thing Phil is gonna do is post it on your behalf saying he "heard it from a source?"
Reason #2: We Speak In News Feeds
Wrong. You're lurking forums. I see your members watching every, single day, so don't come at me with that nonsense. Further, you send PMs to people like The_Philosopher who you KNOW will be posting it on your behalf in forums. Hell, I've had people from iG wall/PM me about things I have said in forums that supposedly were not true. My response to them will always be the same - if you're so sure of yourself, go ahead and respond on the thread.
If you speak in news feeds, then why are so many of your clanmates lurking forums? Shouldn't they be lurking profiles and tracking allies/activity?
Why I Believe The Real Reason Clans Have "No Forum" Policies
Let's face it - you're afraid one of your clanmates might be a noob and embarrass your clan in forums where it is posted there for all to see.
You have a "No Forum" policy because you don't have enough faith in your clanmates to represent your clan well, do you? Why else wouldn't you allow them to post? Just be honest.
Just take a look at some clans who have a "Council-Only in Forums" policy.
Or my personal favorite - The clan owner/alliance leader comes to a thread, makes an "official" statement, and posts "This will be our final statement on this thread."
The whole time, your poor clanmates are sitting back biting their tongue with a gag order, afraid to post or be kicked from their clan.
You're selling a crock of ****
, and guess what, I'm not buying it. :|
Best response so far, in my opinion. Others have made this point, but I believe Fractals put it all together in a single post the best.
Reason #1
By far, the most common reason given is that "forums is the land of noobs."
My Response
This is the most hypocritical reason there is. Not only do I regularly see your members lurking in forums on a 24/7 basis, this is also the place where many of your clanmates came to learn basic game mechanics and got their EB help. It's where they came to get answers to most of the questions they had when they were starting to learn this game.
Forums is the largest collection of fundamental KaW knowledge.
Yes, there are many, many annoying noobs here, but there are also some really brilliant minds who come here to contribute a great deal of game mechanics knowledge, so I don't buy this argument.
If this place is the land of noobs, why have you been so up to date with what gets posted here? Every single time a claim is made by a clan without a "No Forum" policy, you're so quick to blow up Phil's PM? We're noobs - why waste your time giving someone your side of the story if you don't give a crap about what we think about you, especially if you know for a fact that the first thing Phil is gonna do is post it on your behalf saying he "heard it from a source?"
Reason #2: We Speak In News Feeds
Wrong. You're lurking forums. I see your members watching every, single day, so don't come at me with that nonsense. Further, you send PMs to people like The_Philosopher who you KNOW will be posting it on your behalf in forums. Hell, I've had people from iG wall/PM me about things I have said in forums that supposedly were not true. My response to them will always be the same - if you're so sure of yourself, go ahead and respond on the thread.
If you speak in news feeds, then why are so many of your clanmates lurking forums? Shouldn't they be lurking profiles and tracking allies/activity?
Why I Believe The Real Reason Clans Have "No Forum" Policies
Let's face it - you're afraid one of your clanmates might be a noob and embarrass your clan in forums where it is posted there for all to see.
You have a "No Forum" policy because you don't have enough faith in your clanmates to represent your clan well, do you? Why else wouldn't you allow them to post? Just be honest.
Just take a look at some clans who have a "Council-Only in Forums" policy.
Or my personal favorite - The clan owner/alliance leader comes to a thread, makes an "official" statement, and posts "This will be our final statement on this thread."
The whole time, your poor clanmates are sitting back biting their tongue with a gag order, afraid to post or be kicked from their clan.
You're selling a crock of ****
Best response so far, in my opinion. Others have made this point, but I believe Fractals put it all together in a single post the best.
Fractals said:Cheese!![]()
I would like to say that you and others like you with the slide and glide logical yet humorous tone are a huge part of why they don't want them posting in forums. Words are just important to kaw as action. However hiding behind one or the other is not my favorite style. I prefer to use both. You will seldom see me actually argue with someone here.
You yourself have a way of picking apart.. No. Mutilating poorly thought out post. It can be heavy at times.. And you know that. However i believe encourages content more often then not and pushes people to try harder.
Logical fallacy seldom stands its ground here during my years of playing.its a good thing. Beautiful even.
The other thing i see is simple. Saw it today actually. Farming over idiotic post or statements. Like a rage thread. Op will get farmed. :lol: no doubt.
The hassle of protecting a member is often just that. A hassle.
Demanding members to not use forums also fall in that category. This way a clan can kick and look the other way to avoid the hassle. The concept is simplified as
"Member are replaceable. Time is not."
The diplomatic side of war is found on walls and banners, Clan chat and private messages but the most predominate place for the community to visually grasp the politics of kaw happens in forums. You have to do a little politicking in KaW. Its a must.
-Finally-
To be frank. This game is boring without forums once you find It.
Forums is a hub of information, communication, comedy and even hatred.
(To the fat guy on the couch posting all day. You rule and thank you)