Another innocent teen gunned down.

ArTFulD0dgA_ThE_WARbeast said:
I do agree that in some situations other things can be done before pulling a gun and shooting someone, police have tazers and OC spray for a reason.

But if someone came up on me brandishing a gun and I also had a gun, I would happily unload a clip or 2 in him. At the end of the day its them or me and I pick me everytime.

At other times there are options that can be attempted first.
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Unless you are using select rifles from WW1/WW2 days like the M1 Garand, then no you would not happily unload a few clips on them. Modern weapons use these magical devices called magazines, not clips.

Every time someone says clip instead of magazines, Wayne LaPierre weeps! Then he addresses you as "dumbass" in the rest of his board meetings with the NRA 

JK bud. They really are called magazines though 
 
Point gun at cop = get shot.

If you had a gun and someone pointed one at you, what would you do?

This could be Mostly resolved if no one had guns :)
 
lIlIxX-IW_Rio_IW-XxlIlI said:
Point gun at cop = get shot.

If you had a gun and someone pointed one at you, what would you do?

This could be Mostly resolved if no one had guns :)
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Get the **** out now. This isn't china. If I want to own a gun I will.
 
If the guy had any intention of shooting the police officer he would have shoothim already instead of waiting for the officer to pull his gun and shoot him
 
Luck said:
If the guy had any intention of shooting the police officer he would have shoothim already instead of waiting for the officer to pull his gun and shoot him
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That's no justification at all, many soldiers drafted into the Vietnam war didn't shoot their guns at first armed combat, but did later on because their country willed them to, it was their duty. I know it's a bad analogy and doesn't fit the situation but my point is hesitation does not mean someone won't do something.
 
D3VlL said:
LMABAO said:
It's a justifiable lawsuit. He was assaulted over a false crime report.

I could maybe understand all 7 officers treating him that way if that "knife" was visible to them and they made a mistake. But it wasn't.

I have to wonder how you can mistake a nail clipper for a knife in the first place lol.
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For a reputable person, they could get fired over it and have their reputation messed up because the police made a mistake. They used excessive force on an innocent person.

The police would jail you for years if you assaulted one of them. The citizens can charge the police for assault/excessive force as well.
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You are going by the plaintiff's word in a $250K lawsuit in his favor! You think his details of the account are exactly the way it went down or is there a chance he embellished just a bit to make his case?

Nail clippers are generally silver and shiny, a longer pair could have been seen as a knife by someone else on the public system. Easy enough. Are the police supposed to ask first react second? Or should they treat it like there is a possibility of incident?

If the officer just got him to the ground and handcuffed him immediately before continuing with the investigation then I don't see harm in that. It's better safe than sorry for a job that puts you face to face with some of the potential worst people in our country

Just like anything these days, the sissy ass people who have anything done to them that they don't like, go crying about it and get loads of cash based on a flawed legal system. He doesn't deserve $250K over that. No one does.
 
Another quiet thought...... There's usually a sharp hook tool in ya standard nail clipper, I'd hate to get my decades long beer gut ruined by one of those..... Damn my 1st world problems
 
llIIllIll_Pup-Devil_llIIllIll said:
ArTFulD0dgA_ThE_WARbeast said:
I do agree that in some situations other things can be done before pulling a gun and shooting someone, police have tazers and OC spray for a reason.

But if someone came up on me brandishing a gun and I also had a gun, I would happily unload a clip or 2 in him. At the end of the day its them or me and I pick me everytime.

At other times there are options that can be attempted first.
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Unless you are using select rifles from WW1/WW2 days like the M1 Garand, then no you would not happily unload a few clips on them. Modern weapons use these magical devices called magazines, not clips.

Every time someone says clip instead of magazines, Wayne LaPierre weeps! Then he addresses you as "dumbass" in the rest of his board meetings with the NRA 

JK bud. They really are called magazines though 
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Sorry bro totally forgotten that I had stated I was using a type of gun that used a magazine not a clip. Oh wait I just stated "a gun" my bad.

I'm sure it's ok if my theoretical gun in the theoretical scenario is a ww1 gun with a clip.

But alas we don't get many police shootings or shootings in general here due to stricter gun laws. We also have very few americans here too, that probably helps alot.
 
And in closing, I've always found that going about my daily grind, paying my bills on time and buying whatever I need(not want) seems to work ..... I haven't been shot by a police officer once. Maybe just maybe some people think the world owes them a certain standard of living.

I say get a job - there's 8-10 hours a day your "idle hands" are busy making you a productive member of society. "Idle hands" are the devils play things.
 
HiT__XxFrontxX__ApoC said:
D3VlL said:
LMABAO said:
It's a justifiable lawsuit. He was assaulted over a false crime report.

I could maybe understand all 7 officers treating him that way if that "knife" was visible to them and they made a mistake. But it wasn't.

I have to wonder how you can mistake a nail clipper for a knife in the first place lol.
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For a reputable person, they could get fired over it and have their reputation messed up because the police made a mistake. They used excessive force on an innocent person.

The police would jail you for years if you assaulted one of them. The citizens can charge the police for assault/excessive force as well.
Click to expand...

You are going by the plaintiff's word in a $250K lawsuit in his favor! You think his details of the account are exactly the way it went down or is there a chance he embellished just a bit to make his case?

Nail clippers are generally silver and shiny, a longer pair could have been seen as a knife by someone else on the public system. Easy enough. Are the police supposed to ask first react second? Or should they treat it like there is a possibility of incident?

If the officer just got him to the ground and handcuffed him immediately before continuing with the investigation then I don't see harm in that. It's better safe than sorry for a job that puts you face to face with some of the potential worst people in our country

Just like anything these days, the sissy ass people who have anything done to them that they don't like, go crying about it and get loads of cash based on a flawed legal system. He doesn't deserve $250K over that. No one does.
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Yes. I would expect 7 officers approaching 1 person to question, and be on guard, first versus reacting the way they did in his claim because his "weapon" wasn't visible.

That lawsuit may sound ridiculous to most of you but we also don't know if that person sustained any injuries from what happened. We don't know if he had a previous injury that worsen due to that situation.

"Looks like" isn't a good reason to be that aggressive with someone. A nail clipper can look like a knife if you're not paying attention. But it's still not a knife. They can be used as a weapon, but it wasn't in that case.

There's been cases of cops shooting someone because it looked like they were holding a gun, when they were actually holding a wallet. If I remember to search and can find a link to that specific incident I'll post here.
 
Guys listen that kid pulled out a gun yes he shouldn't hVe been killed.but he broke the law and it wouldn't have made any difrence if it was a white kid.and the protesters are taking it too far this could destroy our country!
 
Think it's about time parents stopped marching and acting like idiots…stopped laughing at the deaths of cops…stopped supporting this moronic craze of sheeplike rioting just because everyone else is doing it…stopped making excuses for their delinquent children…

and started raising them
 
@LMABAO

The police have to look into the claim not the aftermath. All it takes is for some ass to say he was flashing a knife around (even if he wasn't) and they have to respond as if he has a weapon and the potential to use it. Sucks but that's the way our society has become. There's some sick individuals and the police put THEMSELVES on the line. Easy to sit back and be cynical when it's not our lives in jeopardy EVERY shift.

If he truly sustained bodily harm that had any profound impact on his future or significant injury than sure maybe action is needed and possibly a suit. But to me it seems like another case of "the bad policeman beat me up" syndrome.

I love my country, but sadly we have gone from stand up, driven, honorable, self accountable, understanding, and fair to sniveling, self centered, spoiled, arrogant, "everyone owes me something" babies. I dream of a day we rekindle the fire that was true AMERICA
 
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