Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc

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Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Harbinger_of_wrath said:
You are bigger but you have something to lose. We don't.

Is the shoe on the other foot here or what?

I never thought in a frosty day in hell that id ever read those words coming from a zaft member.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

HiT-l_l_Weezus_I_l-HiT said:
Harbinger_of_wrath said:
HiT-l_l_Weezus_I_l-HiT said:
@ Maddog - Have we won the war? Nope. The main effort at this point isn't to win the war. You know and I know that there isn't a coup de grace which wins these things lol. If so, it would have likely been the opening act.

You sound like ZAFT leadership holding a never ending war over our head like that's something we should be afraid of. Let me hit you with some facts - ZAFT is falling apart one clan at a time and is fighting privately more than they are throwing Inc at us. Our goal is presently not to win the war, it's to make every single one of your members naked and zeroed. The more ZAFT Fury falls apart the easier that becomes.

I'll give credit where credit is due: yours will be the last clan standing. When that happens, we'll cut at and quarter your roster up evenly, amongst all Apocalypse clans (10 each) and we will perm pin and zero you.

So our rebuttal to your "never ending war" threat - don't threaten me with a good time.

 Happy KaWing

Some of you old ZAFTIES including yourself trying to bring ZAFT old tactics to Apoc. Tactics that I myself thought you how to do. What you choosed to forget is that kaw evolved. Making and storing gold is too easy. Nothing you can do can prevent your members from being stripped. Nothing in the world. If you think the old ways of pinning is an effective strategy then by all means show us lol. Seem like you missed the evolution of KAW. Nothing you can do will prevent your members from being stripped. Now that is the truth. We can do this til kaw breaks. Don't take my word for it. Time will tell right?

Well Harb, you're right. I was gone a while. But I didn't realize that much had changed.

I didn't realize that asking my members to not replenish defensive pots was the new status quo. I forgot to tell them at the onset of the war to not hit the clans we were at war with. It slipped my mind to highlight the value of the strategy of not reversing strips when caught but instead upgrading.

You're right Harb, while at zaft I was spoken to and taught some old school war ways. But I wasn't heard very clearly.

I measure success through membership engagement and attrition. Stripped amounts also help.

Let me help zaft with some advice - it's free. Chain hitting the eb and not hitting apoc will not ensure a zaft win. Banking in a 25% loss in bronze bars is a win for us to begin with. No bfa is bad and reduces your capacity to raise funds and finally, your max plunder leader failed to mention, hire hitting your own members and not listening to their strategic input forces entire clans to leave your alliance.

I'm waiting for your game changing move Harb, for now all I see is an under performing disengaged alliance getting farmed mercilessly.

Can't wait for your next lesson bud.

Nah, no need to debate. Time will tell
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Harb admitting zaft has lost everything lol. Truth is he has nothing left to lose and doesn't care if anyone else in zaft has anything to lose as he's selfish . Stupid statement
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Apoc constantly throwing around the fact that they executed the "biggest strip in history". Adjusted for KaW inflation, is it really? Money is a lot easier to come by these days...

Curious...
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Smokintough said:
So you're saying you can easily come up with 300T terra?

Did I say I can make 300T easily? No. Is making 300T easier today than 1 year ago? Absolutely.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Getting the gold is the easy part. Executing buys in 2 min is a chore. Finding the window was risky. And the whole this is risky. Imagine we failed ( I know it's hard but try ) 300t in the hands of a spiteful angry zaft leader would really hurt us. And we don't really have a choice but to bring it up. It's the bloody name of the thread and if we don't bring it up thread may get locked ! Lol
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

I keep hearing time will tell, war will last forever etc... the war is now bro.

I'll tell you the same thing I told maddog, you can't threaten us with a winning war forever. We are comfortable from our current position and enjoying the war.

Don't threaten me with a good time.

Apoc - keep up the great work. Their goal is to lose this war forever.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

--NiGHTMARe-MaCHiNE-- said:
Getting the gold is the easy part. Executing buys in 2 min is a chore. Finding the window was risky. And the whole this is risky. Imagine we failed ( I know it's hard but try ) 300t in the hands of a spiteful angry zaft leader would really hurt us. And we don't really have a choice but to bring it up. It's the bloody name of the thread and if we don't bring it up thread may get locked ! Lol

so if the gold was not important, what are you basing the claim that it was the greatest strip ever off of? It was the best just cuz of who the target was?
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

If I was a ZAFT council member I'd be so ashamed of Harb, seriously I would. Dude is a complete fool still talking, all this talk let's just bring everything to an end with a conclusion of we sitting on you till flying pigs come home.

By the way my metaphors bamg lmao
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

--NiGHTMARe-MaCHiNE-- said:
Getting the gold is the easy part. Executing buys in 2 min is a chore. Finding the window was risky. And the whole this is risky. Imagine we failed ( I know it's hard but try ) 300t in the hands of a spiteful angry zaft leader would really hurt us. And we don't really have a choice but to bring it up. It's the bloody name of the thread and if we don't bring it up thread may get locked ! Lol
I might distract you with my sexy hooves so you get your precious victory thread locked ;)
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Oh trust me I love when it's brought up and I get it that 300T is much easier to amass than a year ago especially for apoc to use in a strip (I don't say us this time because sadly I wasn't a part of this strip) I'm just saying even with inflation it's a very sizable amount.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Some of you old ZAFTIES including yourself trying to bring ZAFT old tactics to Apoc. Tactics that I myself thought you how to do. What you choosed to forget is that kaw evolved. Making and storing gold is too easy. Nothing you can do can prevent your members from being stripped. Nothing in the world. If you think the old ways of pinning is an effective strategy then by all means show us lol. Seem like you missed the evolution of KAW. Nothing you can do will prevent your members from being stripped. Now that is the truth. We can do this til kaw breaks. Don't take my word for it. Time will tell right?[/quote]

Hey harb, why dont you share with us old zafties what you really taught us, like how to be a gutless moron who tried to throw his weight around and back stab his own family and threatened his own admin to do his dirty work.
Thing is though where are they now? Got your back or laughing their asses off at you?
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Well Zaft may not have anything to lose...anymore. That doesn't mean that harb alone didn't have over 300T to use against us. You all had plenty to lose at the beginning! It's only been a month guys! There has been many fail strips that were caught by zafties, but they chose to upgrade or bank in BB instead of clear banks and reverse the strip. So now the strategy is to drop all pots and hit ebs to try and rustle funds to strip us back?? With your turtle tower builds I highly doubt you will be able to keep up with the gold we make off smashing your alliance. Well Zaft be prepared for a long ass whipping I guess. 
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

It was the greatest strip for many reasons.
1,) it was the biggest
2.) it was done while he was in Osw and expecting to be stripped
3.) he deserved it the most. Countless times he made enemies over his bully tactics.
4,) it had a shattering impact on zaft alliance, many have left
5.) Harb is a prime time player. Vocal. Strong. Opinionated. Hated. And a key leader. Stripping him has been the single greatest tactical move this war. Even though we outnumber them 5-1, if Harb still had gold they would have stripped more of us

But as it stands we did strip him. And zaft may be playing kaw but apoc is playing dominos and having way more fun as each zafty falls down

Nightmare
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Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

xXx_llTllHlUllNlDllAll_xXx said:
Terra sticking up for zaft hahahaha what a joke , look out Apoc we in trouble now.

Sticking up for ZAFT? I have a $30 bet against Harb that they lose OSW, so by all means please beat them.

But please keep trying to put me down. Show us all your maturity.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

As a old apoc member back in the day and most recently up untill I chose to leave war. I will say i left the war due to my voice not being heard the fact i didnt fancy being in another long winded osw and the tactics I disagreed with. the strip on harb was phenomenal and like nightmare said it was planned to perfection obviously as it was successfull. Yes apoc are aware strips may happen as they know of there attackers now unlike harb did so it will be harder to strip apoc members front liners and other targets to make a big impact on apoc. But as I will say with the OG war and wdgaf for months we in OG were stripping leaving wdgaf with mp allies and OG had already claimed to win the war over and over untill the last month when it all made sense why wdgaf were hitting amd pinning on ebs for months on end, there started picking of OG members one by one till there was only a couple of clans left in war they were forced to cf. Now I see the same happening with apoc at the beginning of war we was told no ebs the ever during war, which is where I thought yes we have spent a month or two prepping for this but zaft will still hit ebs for 6 months once all apocs resources are gone what happens then? The point is u need epics and zaft amd fury are warring new skool and unless apoc pick up on this I'm sorry but pretending to be toughened osw warriors that are too proud to hit ebs during war, you will loose and I called this from the beginning. I never really liked zaft and I don't care who wins. Just my two cents don't care if u want to hear it or not it's the truth.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

@Rasta - we do use ebs so not sure where that is coming from - just because we dont use them 24/7 doesnt mean we arent raising funds and upgrading

All about balance 
 
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