Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc

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Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Will any zaft address the forums concerning the war now that Harb seemingly quit? Have zaft pulled any strips or is it a completely one-sided osw in Apocs favor?

And DM do you even...
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

SiCn0c_BaD__MeDiCiNe__________ said:
Will any zaft address the forums concerning the war now that Harb seemingly quit? Have zaft pulled any strips or is it a completely one-sided osw in Apocs favor?

And DM do you even...
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Zaft blah only 2 clans of their mass amounts of clans I have seen even fund lol and no I don't do crack lol
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

No fury fan boy gonna trying to point out how well zaft is doing or u gonna let me mock them? Wait that's right u all don't like zaft lol
 
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DrunkenMaster said:
No fury fan boy gonna trying to point out how well zaft is doing or u gonna let me mock them? Wait that's right u all don't like zaft lol
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I think they dont have any proof or acts so they can say zaft is going good, they losing everything 
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Why talk less talky more hitty thought thread was dead respect to the warriors both sides none to the non-combatant necro ones wars live not in it why comment?
FARM MEH!! lol
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

I am kinda curious that if harbinger of bumdraft has quit then why not swallow there pride before what is left of there lbs and alliance is smashed and ask for cf,tbh no one I know of in apocalypse would lose respect for them for not fighting a war they didn't start.
 
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SaDiStIC-KilLa-_LoCkIe_-BeAr said:
I am kinda curious that if harbinger of bumdraft has quit then why not swallow there pride before what is left of there lbs and alliance is smashed and ask for cf,tbh no one I know of in apocalypse would lose respect for them for not fighting a war they didn't start.
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Harbinger went back to Carnage and unquit.

And adding to what you say, we truely don't see people leaving the war as runners, we see them as brave for standing up against leadership the dont believe in. Anyone wishing to leave only has to pm myself or any Apoc leader to let us know they are leaving zaft and leaving war. There are no humilating wall posts cf requests needed.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

RedHotVixen_MaCHiNE said:
Harbinger went back to Carnage and unquit.

And adding to what you say, we truely don't see people leaving the war as runners, we see them as brave for standing up against leadership the dont believe in. Anyone wishing to leave only has to pm myself or any Apoc leader to let us know they are leaving zaft and leaving war. There are no humilating wall posts cf requests needed.
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Well said Vix 
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Zaft was a great alliance back in the day but they really went down hill. They are still powerful but they are fighting an uphill battle which they are losing badly. I'm an apoc member and i know how powerful zaft were and still are but they need to see that they are fighting for a cause that they were wrong in and are now being heavily hit for.
 
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I have lots of friends in zaft. I was once zaft myself. Several friends in zaft have told me it's not their fight so they won't return inc. I asked why don't you just leave almost all replied cause it's home. I respect their decision to stay since it is their home. A cpl said we should just target the leaders since they the ones wanted the fight not the members. Sad that the majority of the members have gone on strike refusing to return inc because they don't feel it's their fight. Respect to my friends for the courage to just sit back and watch as their accounts are tore apart because of leadership at zaft.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Currently taking inc from a clan member in a clan called 'The Heart of the Phoenix'
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

--DBAD1-KiLLiNG-MaCHiNE-- said:
I have lots of friends in zaft. I was once zaft myself. Several friends in zaft have told me it's not their fight so they won't return inc. I asked why don't you just leave almost all replied cause it's home. I respect their decision to stay since it is their home. A cpl said we should just target the leaders since they the ones wanted the fight not the members. Sad that the majority of the members have gone on strike refusing to return inc because they don't feel it's their fight. Respect to my friends for the courage to just sit back and watch as their accounts are tore apart because of leadership at zaft.
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I think the next thing you should ask to them is if they are comfortable... If u just sit and wait the inc to stop just because of your leadership then i dont think they deserve to have you there in the first place 
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

look its simple...most in zaft are only there for the non-stop b2b HTE. it is what it is a giant eb conglomerate. if you never had to seal and the same 10 people bought seals all day long you would prob stay 2. even if you were getting pummeled into the ground.
 
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ELf_oN-ThE_ShELf said:
look its simple...most in zaft are only there for the non-stop b2b HTE. it is what it is a giant eb conglomerate. if you never had to seal and the same 10 people bought seals all day long you would prob stay 2. even if you were getting pummeled into the ground.
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I was a Zaft myself, many can and will tell me crap but when u see half of ur clan leaving in the same day, and u staying to fight till nearly the end and leave and being told runner when all had finished either way, ull understand what im trying to say 
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

HiT__IGreenI__HiT said:
ELf_oN-ThE_ShELf said:
look its simple...most in zaft are only there for the non-stop b2b HTE. it is what it is a giant eb conglomerate. if you never had to seal and the same 10 people bought seals all day long you would prob stay 2. even if you were getting pummeled into the ground.
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I was a Zaft myself, many can and will tell me crap but when u see half of ur clan leaving in the same day, and u staying to fight till nearly the end and leave and being told runner when all had finished either way, ull understand what im trying to say 
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its the same old song and dance. Zaft will use you to take hits for their lbs and leaders but as soon as you have had enough they will put you up in CA. I remember leaving last war and Harb asking me why i was leaving ...

then he causes this war and bails and then comes back and will prob bail again...
there is no loyalty in zaft. as soon as they don't need you they toss you aside. As soon as you aren't taking enough inc and putting up with the bs their lbs cause by ally hire hitting and ally hoarding you are the problem. Zaft issues have always come from the top down . You never ever hear of a zaft grunt causing trouble and starting an osw its always the same people and really since Laoda left its really gone downhill with 1Sl and Harb the turd running the ship. Kinda sad to see what was once a huge monopoly in Kaw destroyed because of a db
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Will only say this once. I left after speaking with leaders and let them know that if the war will be ending in cf soon I will not return but if the war will continue I will. Because no one is under the illusion that this will be swift. I did not want my presence to influence anyone's decision. After it was decided that the war will continue I returned. Elf if you were in ZAFT with me you would know that I don't run, so I doubt your claims as an ex- ZAFT.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Harbinger_of_wrath said:
Will only say this once. I left after speaking with leaders and let them know that if the war will be ending in cf soon I will not return but if the war will continue I will. Because no one is under the illusion that this will be swift. I did not want my presence to influence anyone's decision. After it was decided that the war will continue I returned. Elf if you were in ZAFT with me you would know that I don't run, so I doubt your claims as an ex- ZAFT.
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Harb, i really dont know why, trust me, Carnage loves you, if u push them to the option War or u leaving, they'll war ( carnage likes to, i know) u gott see in exception of carnage, see ur zaft clans and their members left, see who attacks or even return incs, zaft is losing everything, sad yes, its a historic family alliance but i want to ask you something... Is it worth? 
 
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