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C0ML3Y said:Let's just say, half of things people saying iphophet did. Was just claims that iphophet made.
It's funny how people remember things in rose tinted glasses. He made so much up. It was more interesting than a Jeremy Kyle special on liars
Captain_Geech said:With that out of the way, I too would say iProphet is the best all around player kaw ever had. Cheese's story was a tad inaccurate. He didnt play for a short period of time. He had played kaw for 3 or 4 years, pretty much since it came out, before he left.
And while those with little knowledge of kaw history will say people bought in the iprophet forum bs,I would like to added my reasons which having nothing to do with forums.
Was the commander of clan that won the 2nd All Star wars.
He was commander of Team Italy, the weakest team in the Country Wars, and still won.
He farmed lb players on a regular.
During a system war, he took on most all of the LB by himself and beat them which lead to the 2nd osw between Regs and BH. Bh had already destroyed Regs before but now they had Proph and his clan there and it made a huge impact. BH had been completely dominate to this point and the war ends with mutual CF. BH fell apart short after the war and Regs rose to become one of the strongest clans around, that tells us the CF wasnt so mutual.
Speaking of system war, he never lost a single system war and was regarged by many at the time as one of the best war commanders, only rivaled by his frined who was equally as strategic, os-yoongy. The two of them won 100s of system wars together. If you where in system war and Proph showed up on the otherside, you knew you were going lose.
He forced quite almost all of the iTeam members, twice.
First player to us the EB system as a bank for stripping players.
Beat Ajax in 1v1
He played a huge role in taking Teja off number 1 spot after maj gave it up to him.
He started FarmFest.
He taught as many if not more people that this is a war game and that hitting other is not only part of the game, but a lot of fun.
I mean, I could go on for pages but I'll just stop here. Saying it was all bs and fairdust is a far from the truth.
-grizzy- said:Best kaw player? Me with out a doubt.
You spelt Scrap wrong.Snoopy said:Cor was pretty amazing.
support he was amazingBlue-Tiger said:Corinthian, if you don't know him you're a A grade noob. I don't need to explain why he's my pick, it's obvious.
Captain_Geech said:_____________TNT_____________ said:The_Philosopher said:@ Cheese I’m not sure how threatening lawsuits makes someone a great player, especially if they quit.
I agree with Kezzer.____Frog____o_0 is the most accomplished, complete player in the game. He is also a huge jerk and egomaniac, but that's part of the appeal. This year alone he’s stripped two moderators and one VK just for kicks, as well as a few people stupid enough to mouth off to him in the forums. He was smart enough to join -Warlor- just before it became arguably the strongest OSW in Kaw.
A very strong case could be made for him being the best EE player. After all, he did WC this year’s winning team and is the only player in Kaw’s history sporting three championship badges. He also brings in an element of danger as he is notorious for stripping during EE war.
Finally, while he is a troll, lots of his Kaw-related threads were excellent and he is one of the few big builds not too scared to put their reputations on the line in the forums.
There may be richer accounts in the game, but no one plays all aspects of this game better than Frog.
This has alt written all over it.
@Cheese-Also, I think you, like many, fell for ipros bs. He was mostly talk, and I think he was just smart enough to project his confidence enough to scare people. This became evident in the wdgaf vs og war (I believe) when he was smashing foxes in forums, went to regs and started hitting foxes, then threw a huge fit about them bringing him into the war when they pulled a strip on him...then didn't do much else.
He was always good with the "you don't know when I will strike" crap, which was an easy wall to hide behind. Its similar to God does everything for a reason", so you are lead to believe that even no action, is action.
Please tell the full story here. iProphet pulled his clan from ZAFT because they wouldnt let him help the clan he turned into a kickass wae machine, Regulators. After pulling out from ZAFT, not just iProphet was ready, but all of 46 and 2 was ready to jump into that war full on. They had already been feeding strip funds. 46 waited and waited and waited but Wulf never gave the full go ahead to 46 and without the full backing of WDGAF, 46 had no interest of being shields for them in osw.
So a couple months of go by like this and Prophet finally joins regs and starts hitting Foxes. This is the good part of the story.
See this is when all of kaw still thought Wulf was a goodie goodie non rule breaking player. Adding to that, iProphet and Wulf were very very close at that time. I recall iProphet having a few tril in allies,a large amount back then. Without out saying against ToU, at best all i can say is Wulf "watched" over iProphets account often during osw, this osw being no different.
With that knowledge, you need to also talk about how the very next day after prophet joined Regs, CF was reached in the war, litterally hours after he joined regs and the CF came about.
See CF talks were already in place and now with Wulf "watching" prophs account as he slept, it was stripped.
CF terms had already been agreed to, and those terms included proph being naked which was delivered by the very people who proph was trying to help.
This is the whole reason he left kaw, betrayal by a rl friend(Wulf and Proph know each other outside kaw). He even made a huge forum post about how every player in this game is corrupt (talking mainly of Wulf and Bellamorte)and the whole community sided with Bell and Wulf thinking they were the golden childern of KaW.
Now hindsight is 20 20 and in the years since we saw the very corruption he spoke of.
This is the real history of that. Not the side written by a victory in the war.
Signed
A former Regulator council member
Captain_Geech said:Idk. I remember most of them. And being that iProphet and I are the same person (surprise!), which claims do you think to be false?
I havent played in years and would have no probably clearing up anything youre questioning
Captain_Geech said:Without out saying against ToU, at best all i can say is Wulf "watched" over iProphets account often during osw, this osw being no different.
-Silverbullet_MaCHiNE- said:Cynderstrike
Captain_Geech said:I never said account sharing. He "watched" it. You are confusing us with your typical kaw player. We had built our own scritps and programs specifically for kaw. From tracking, pinning, even pms and cc. There wasnt much data transfer that we didnt have logged.
KaW even knew about..some of the them. Wulf was a mod after all and he would often use the data collected from these addon as a means of feedback to the devs.
The fact foxes is even given that much credit is funny. The only other time I was stripped and i mean good and proper was when ZAFT got me banned cause i got their leader and number ranked 1 player's name changed. Lets not forget a lot of players and clans came at me over the years (almost all, better tyan any form of Foxes) and while lots of them did serious damage, only those two times was I ever naked. Go ahead, check the forums, you wont find another example. The night proph was stripped was only possible by someone allowing it. You can believe what you want but thats how it goes.
You can claim proph said outrageous things, often it happened. And lots of people do have lots of different types stories about iprophet, but saying hes a liar is bold. This forum is a history book of prophet against ata and kaw. A no holds grudge matchup where at times there things said so wild and crazy, players just couldnt believe.
Yet after the dust settled and time passed, nearly everything prophet has stated in forums has to come pass as well.
As for the comment about system war having no strat. Strat is not something you can build in a game. Strategy is the way you play the game. There are plenty of stragetic approaches to kaw and all of it has come from the mind of players. If war, of any kind has no strat... it doesnt because of you. And promise ya there was tons of tactics and strats to old system... as well as current one and osw. Ya just gotta have the mind to figure it out.
Thinking about how i played proph, i wouldnt even call proph the best player at any single aspect of the game, I was just highly efficient, well connected, a had the silverest tounge kaw has seen. If you really think iProphet didn't play as large of a role as anyone in shaping this game, you're ingoring a huge part of kaw history circa 2011-2013.

-V- said:Roni