OSW: Yafi vs NA

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Just for the record, this isn't yafi vs NA. This is still NA vs LOS/Purg. Yafi is just the latest clan that LOS has pulled in to fight their fight for them.

We have warred them for 7 months. In that 7 months they have had multiple other clans fight their war while their leaders make new clans and pin on eb. KJB and Tickles I'm looking at you two.

After 7 months and having multiple other clans fight their fight, they want to end it by having YAFI demand a cease fire. This is them having yet another clan fight their fight for them. This is what we have dealt with for 7 months.

I personally have no beef with yafi, but it is silly to assume that we would allow our enemy to run without admitting defeat. A simple post on twicc's wall from kjb or tickles or balle and would end this.

But to think you can run and hide behind a name such as yafi is absurd. You guys aren't yafi just because you have the tags now. You are still the same people we have beaten into taking such drastic measures as to attempt to scare us with a big alliance name. It's an attempt to run from a war.

Anyone in our position would feel obligated to continue on.

I don't speak for NA but personally if yafi wants to hit me to protect someone trying to run from a war that they wanted and now don't have the honor to admit defeat, then I guess that is a price I must pay to continue to pursue those who ganged up on me.

It has been 10 clans vs NA for this long. Unfortunately these beggars have found another set of players to continue the fight they wish to run from.
 
Speaking from experience with OSW against LoS they do drag other people in for their fights. During our OSW (Team Echo) it was literally 7 of us fighting Legacy then they called in 3 of their other clans within 24 hours. So we found their other 2 clans who conveniently dropped from the family list and dragged the entire alliance in. In other words congrats to New Age for breaking up that family. I am rather surprised though that Yafi decided to fight LoS fight for them.
 
Support to NA. Not giving up and fighting their own fight without asking for help from other clans. I respect that
 
The_Philosopher said:
Two OSW threads in a day. I'm unstoppable.


Yafi versus New Age. This comes from the merger of what remained of Los with Yafi.
NA and Los were in osw for 7 months due to NA stripping mods. At the start it was NA vs Purg, then it went on to NA vs los family, then other clans joined in.

Then Yafi pmed Twicc demanding a mutual cf because Los was going to merge into Yafi. Yafi tried pressuring twicc and NA into mutual cf, since NA were tired, they accepted. For reasons not quite clear, the cf didn’t last, with NA hitting Purgatory agai and with Los being part of Yafi now, Yafi went to war.

The biggest claimed strip was NA on Malak Warrior. 60T claimed taken. But I'm sure there have been others. TBH, I’ve been out of the loop, so I’ll let others discuss the finer detail. Good luck to all. :ugeek:
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This time round, I'm pretty impressed with your detailed post.

Let me make some parts clearer.

We did not demand for a mutual CF. We informed Twicc that YAFI will be absorbing LoS, and this is a friendly heads-up that LoS would want a mutual CF. YAFI has in most circumstances granted CF to our opponents who respectfully requested for it. We believe in human rights and choices.
"Ask and you shall receive" is something we believe in :)

Twicc was also judged to have been playing around our member in PMs (all PMs were shared among our decision makers) and flip-flopping in his decisions, to CF, not to CF.

NA on the other hand refuse to CF. In fact, their member Oox--KiNGDiNGALiN--xoO decided to give incoming to YAFI senior member and the SS was shown to everyone.

Of course, since NA decides they want to war us, naturally, YAFI will war back. It's a simple decision really. :D
 
MlcKeYKnOcKS said:
Just for the record, this isn't yafi vs NA. This is still NA vs LOS/Purg. Yafi is just the latest clan that LOS has pulled in to fight their fight for them.

We have warred them for 7 months. In that 7 months they have had multiple other clans fight their war while their leaders make new clans and pin on eb. KJB and Tickles I'm looking at you two.

After 7 months and having multiple other clans fight their fight, they want to end it by having YAFI demand a cease fire. This is them having yet another clan fight their fight for them. This is what we have dealt with for 7 months.

I personally have no beef with yafi, but it is silly to assume that we would allow our enemy to run without admitting defeat. A simple post on twicc's wall from kjb or tickles or balle and would end this.

But to think you can run and hide behind a name such as yafi is absurd. You guys aren't yafi just because you have the tags now. You are still the same people we have beaten into taking such drastic measures as to attempt to scare us with a big alliance name. It's an attempt to run from a war.

Anyone in our position would feel obligated to continue on.

I don't speak for NA but personally if yafi wants to hit me to protect someone trying to run from a war that they wanted and now don't have the honor to admit defeat, then I guess that is a price I must pay to continue to pursue those who ganged up on me.

It has been 10 clans vs NA for this long. Unfortunately these beggars have found another set of players to continue the fight they wish to run from.
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To us, LoS has ceased to exist. They are now part of YAFI.

Hitting KJB and Tickles is same as hitting YAFI, and YAFI always war back even if 1 member was hit, unless we judged that the member was hitting battlelist first (in which we typically kick the member). This rule will apply to all new members too.


Personally, taking so many people in, and needing to help guide them in OSW, the strips, the timing, the coordination of steals and funding, etc, takes lots of time. All these are tough to achieve without an OSW.

Kudos to NA for volunteering to be training fodder for us. It's never easy to find a big enough clan, yet not too big, for training. Feel free to hit any of us, the new members too, to make them want to leave. This has been our most effective way of filtering for a period of time, all YAFIans must be battle hardened :)
 
--StaR-ScreaM-- said:
Apple seeds why are you so small..
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It's tough growing when running two businesses bro. ;)

YAFIans always have to put real life first, that's our motto. Applies for LoS too.
Real life before KaW. For everyone. :D
 
Always like your posts apple. always respected yafi. that said...

To you LoS may have ceased to exist, but to NA they are running from a war.

And I've seen the ss. We all have. Yafi demanded we allow LoS a mutual cease fire so that they may merge. I could deem that respectable if we had been warring Yafi. But for yafi to come in as a third party and demand a mutual cease fire was ludicrous and disrespectful.

Put yourself in our shoes. Would you let an enemy off because a third party demanded it? Or would you war the clan that was allowing your enemy safe harbor?

As you said, the choice is simple:)
 
To be honest, YAFI has regarded New Age as friends and we didn't want to war friends. So we informed them LoS wants to join us. LoS wouldn't even have wanted to request for a mutual CF if not for YAFI requesting them to do so.


We have a SS between Twicc and KJB saying (exact wording by Twicc)
"Yes all parties NA and kip also agree to mutual cf"
"Expect some inc fro 12h until all wakes up etc"

Later on, we were suddenly told Twicc doesn't want CF.
Such flip flopping. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Any more questions, I will dig out more juicy details :P
 
Well, since I respect you, I'm not going to sit here and back and forth argue this situation.

You have your reasons, we have ours.

Now lets enjoy not buying into the new Dino Egg Hunt and beat the  out of each other like these buttons were made for:)
 
MlcKeYKnOcKS said:
Well, since I respect you, I'm not going to sit here and back and forth argue this situation.

You have your reasons, we have ours.

Now lets enjoy not buying into the new Dino Egg Hunt and beat the  out of each other like these buttons were made for:)
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You may say so, but so far everyone has been pretty disappointed at the near non-existent incomings from NA. One or two did receive incomings at pretty fixed intervals from one of your members :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Appleseeds do you really believe that NA wanting to finish a war against LOS, that LOS initiated is contravening their Human Rights...seriously? I have always enjoyed your forum posts, but claims like those on Krakkerz's wall are just nonsense.
 
-SaXon- said:
Appleseeds do you really believe that NA wanting to finish a war against LOS, that LOS initiated is contravening their Human Rights...seriously? I have always enjoyed your forum posts, but claims like those on Krakkerz's wall are just nonsense.
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We persuaded LoS to request a mutual CF, something which they didn't want but went ahead anyway.

Everyone saw the SS by Twicc that says all parties NA and kip also agree to mutual cf.
And that's the main reason LoS could join YAFI.

Subsequently, Twicc decided that there is no CF.

Call it whatever you would. To us that was plain dishonourable.
 
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