the UK and the EU

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by IIIIxX-IW_RI0_IW-XxIIII, Nov 17, 2014.

  1. The referendum was a fix. 4-5m casted their vote and probably 2m of those were foreigners who where probably told to vote No or get the next boat home. Holding guns to people's heads till they vote isn't really how it works these days
     
  2. Evidence? Go troll elsewhere
     
  3. Scotland referendum - THEY voted to stay.
    Research after this scotish referendum (independent one) suggest Walles and N. Ireland would vote to stay in by vast majority. Get your facts right.
    Also clarify what you mean set free?!!! last time i checked there was no occupation of any UK members - to set free one have to be imprisoned...
     
  4. Btw the Queen that you speak of, her name was Hoenzolerd or something like that right. She's a nazi and her husband was hocktenstein of Greece. Very nice that. Our head of State is a muppet but at least he was voted in by other muppets, unlike the UK. Who voted the Queen as head of state
     
  5. I'm pretty much positive that Scotland just voted to remain within the union so I'm not entirely sure about that comment.
    Also what commonwealth countries ruled by the uk ? The queen maybe head of state in many but that's certainly not ruling as she's about as in charge as the king of Sweden.

    You've obviously got an issue with the English and feel the need to vent here about it.

    It's a United Kingdom it's got a lot of issues with political power and it's distribution and devolvement but that's not a reason to hate .
     
  6. I agree with a couple of your points, but the fact is the uk is nearly full and our state funded system cannot take the strain anymore (not just benefits, nhs (free for ALL eu citizens) etc)

    The argument is that we are not being permitted to set our own rules on immigration, and that is just plain wrong.
     
  7. You don't vote the queen lol.

    Leave this thread please. Your trolling and I'm not going to ask you again.
     
  8. Lol at this guy hating on UK. You know what they say about haters brah :*
     

  9. Ikr lol. Back on topic: economically, better or worse off?
     
  10. Ar La the name was Hanover the house of Hanover.

    Invited to rule in the uk in the mid 17th same house as Queen Victoria was a part of was she not British enough ?
    Prince Phillip maybe a braying arse at times but he served honourably in WW2.
    The Queen and her sister were both Waaf's her cousin served as commander in the Far East.

    Just for the sake of argument you are aware that De Valera visited the German minister to express condolences for the death of his country's leader in 1945 ? So I'd be careful chucking the national socialist insult out .
     
  11. I'll leave thread but I'm no hater. I feel sorry for those who think the U in UK means United. Leave the EU if ye like but instead of talking crap in here, how about ye ask your local representatives that ye get a vote to stay in or leave. If ye really are United then ye should vote to stay or leave but that won't happen, ye will like always, be told that ye left. Enjoy
     
  12. I belive UK is to blame themselves. I can see germany fully in control of theirs...not talking sweden. no language - no wrk or perm residency. Im slovakian origin livingg UK longg time but it sickens me to see schools not even teaching english language or inland revenue or job center equipped with every world language translator there is (lol hope you understand what i wrote) - that is not eu fault but uk own.
    Dont translate - no claim. Made NI english only, tell your doctors and whole NHS to speak english only, implement ridgit english exams to employ people...probs solved (point finger at germany and sweeden)
     
  13. Lol English haters on this thread lol
     
  14. General response not aimed at quoted player whatsoever. Leaving the eu would ALWAYS be a referendum, there is no way of leaving without one that I know of.
     
  15. On topic I think the uk is better off within the EU.

    Something like 51% of all exports are to EU nations . The cost of tariffs and trade barriers to the uk would be horrendous if we left.

    As for Mr Farage ... He's a base political Hack who having secured easy employment as a member of the European Parliament brays loudly about the state of Europe while doing nothing in Europe to help the issues. He has a truly awful voting record including such delights as refusing to vote yes for a stronger ban on ivory sales within the EU one of 14meps 5others were other UKiP members.
    That was one of the few times he actually bothered to vote mostly he collect expenses and leaves the building.
    He harps on about the uk fishing rights and mismanagement of fishing stocks but has been on the fisheries committee in the EU parliament for 3 yrs and failed to even make an appearance.
    Ukip would be a disaster for this country and that he's been allowed within a mile of any leaders debate for the next general election speaks not of keen political discussion on important issues more a punch and judy show with angry cry baby causing a drama.
     
  16. I agree that the uk should remain in the eu, I think it's the eu that needs to be more flexible with it's rules. It's within the eu's interests to have countries with strong economies in it, the uk leaving would be a disaster for the uk an for the eu.

    Mr farage has a use though, hopefully he will put enough pressure on the other political parties that they will HAVE to start listening. We need a common prime minister, someone from the working class that wants to make a real difference for the entire people of the uk. I don't think any of the leaders ATM fit that.

    I believe we will stay in the eu. I don't quite understand why they don't just change the freedom of movement to landlocked countries however, one problem for uk solved 
     
  17. European union = member states on the land mass of Europa,.. we are a fecking island! We don't want the eu and we don't need it, we are the English, read ur history, the last 1000 years, you think us leaving the eu will be detrimental for us? I don't think so
     
  18. I don't think it would be detrimental, I say disasterous as in the sense of opportunity lost, but the opportunity isn't there if the EU won't be flexible, the eu has lost it's purpose, now it seems to want to try and govern governments.
     
  19. I'm not sure why the class of the prime minister matters I really don't care deeply who they come from but I'm certain they need to be smart and with a common touch.

    Personally I think the wrong Milliband won the leadership election. I don't think David Milliband would have had as many difficulties as his brother seems to create for himself.
     
  20. Im a builder and out of experiance i have been hit hard by the influx of eu workers, working on sites for half the money i wud charge which has drove prices down for english tradesmen with families to feed and bills to pay which have risen in the last few years so no we dont need eu y wud we, we wud b better off becoming a state in the usa cuz lets b fair theres a war british and america r first to go in last to leave we are two of the strongest military powers there are with the best elite forces out there yet in england our service men are treated like **** so i say fuckoff eu