the UK and the EU

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by IIIIxX-IW_RI0_IW-XxIIII, Nov 17, 2014.

  1. Thank you! Past year i had to good job offers in UK but I like being an immigrant in Netherlands way much more.
     
  2. The fact is a referendum is needed in the UK if we are to continue to call ourselves a democracy.

    In 1975 we voted yes to one thing, being members of the European Economic Community (EEC) which meant only one thing: Free Trade with other member states.

    Nowadays the EEC is called the European Union (EU). The EU has a central bank, political systems, courts and much more which makes it more of a federal system.

    This has not been voted on by the British Electorate, more agreed and grown via various political treaties. We therefore, since we have not actually agreed to join a federal system, should have a referendum to even be able to call ourselves democratic.

    On the actual question in or out? I say in. There is a little known EU law that Britain and its financial services sector exploits daily to keep London pumping in all those pounds into our tax system. Is called the freedom of services act and allows us to be Europe's financial capitol. Without this, the city and all those juicy tax revenues from insurance and investment banking will disappear.
     
  3. Netherlands are Nice
     
  4. Freedom to provide services / Freedom of establishment
    The freedom of establishment, set out in Article 49 (ex Article 43 TEC) of the Treaty and the freedom to provide cross border services, set out in Article 56 (ex Article 49 TEC), are two of the “fundamental freedoms” which are central to the effective functioning of the EU Internal Market.
    The principle of freedom of establishment enables an economic operator (whether a person or a company) to carry on an economic activity in a stable and continuous way in one or more Member States. The principle of the freedom to provide services enables an economic operator providing services in one Member State to offer services on a temporary basis in another Member State, without having to be established.


    From EU web page
     
  5. First,

    If the UK deprecates from Europe as a continent, what do they plan to do?

    Second,

    The UK is in a tremendous (percentage wise) amount of debt

    Third,

    10 hours? That's child's play. 10 hours a week is like telling Mike Tyson to tap out (at least here in the US)

    I could go on, but I'm lazy and don't have my glasses on.
     
  6. 2 words...more work

    30 hour work weeks with extravagant pay and benefits don't cut it. I work for a global firm and the EU is the highest cost region. Only natural to shift whatever you can from that region to lower cost regions.
     
  7. Not as much debt as the us lol
     
  8. Money wise, no. But percentage wise, yes they are. The US only has about 100% debt with their annual gross profit. The UK has about 250% debt to their gross profit.
     
  9.  That is attributed to lazy people and free health care mostly.
     
  10. Pesky lazy English and their free health care
     
  11. The United Kingdom recorded a Government Debt to GDP of 90.60 percent of the country's Gross Domestic Product in 2013. Government Debt To GDP in the United Kingdom averaged 48.57 Percent from 1980 until 2013, reaching an all time high of 90.60 Percent in 2013 and a record low of 31.30 Percent in 1991. Government Debt To GDP in the United Kingdom is reported by the Eurostat.

    The United States recorded a Government Debt to GDP of 101.53 percent of the country's Gross Domestic Product in 2013. Government Debt To GDP in the United States averaged 60.81 Percent from 1940 until 2013, reaching an all time high of 121.70 Percent in 1946 and a record low of 31.70 Percent in 1974. Government Debt To GDP in the United States is reported by the U.S. Bureau of Public Debt

    Euro Area recorded a Government Debt to GDP of 90.90 percent of the country's Gross Domestic Product in 2013. Government Debt to GDP in the Euro Area averaged 74.28 Percent from 1995 until 2013, reaching an all time high of 90.90 Percent in 2013 and a record low of 66.20 Percent in 2007. Government Debt to GDP in the Euro Area is reported by the Eurostat.

    Please post facts, not made up crap
     
  12. Applauds numpty *
     
  13. Wish it was actually free.
    It's a load of ********. I'm paying NIC, national insurance. Basically the crap which pays for NHS, "free" health care
    I'm not even using the NHS.
    I'm paying for something I ain't even using!
     
  14. @-Numpty- yes what you provided are facts. But there's is a problem with GDP calculated by Eurostat standards (the GDP is actually calculated by National statistic institutions and not by Eurostat directly). According to Eurostat standards, illegal activities as prostitution, drugs and cigarettes contraband are part of GDP. Nobody can predict the real contribution of GDP of illegal activities but only estimate. So the GDP in EU countries is only estimated.
     
  15. All GDP is estimated.
     
  16. Your paying to keep others in health and for when you do need it. It's called being part of society
     
  17. Society sucks.
     
  18. Lol unicorn, u may use it one day, it's a just in case nhs, but alot of 'visitors ' mis use the nhs because in there own country's their health care isnt free and they would never be able to afford that care and after care if something happened to them, hence go to England it's free!
     
  19. Don't worry thou, the nhs is close to clapse, so I hope you look forward to private health care and massive premiums