Erm I think we are all under some illusion, Russia And China (where the real danger is) has far more military than ourselves, China alone 6mil+ trained soldiers Russia around 3mil+..... USA at the very very top end being overly generous 2mil..... Factor in tanks Russia once again top number of stock piles warheads Russia and lord knows what China will bring to party. Simple fact Russia join forces with China which IS happening the world will be their playground. ... Took us how long to try and fight "terrorists" and we think for some reason we are top dog.... Times are changing I can see it myself slowly but surely, I wouldn't be shocked to see the rise of the former USSR.. But with a friend like China why on earth would they stop there! Could most likely take the whole of Europe in a few short months if they so wished, I do however like that we are relatively safe distance away hahaha we kick the hornet nest in someone else's back yard love it
Player exactly how would China and Russia be getting their military forces to America ? Because if they come via the sea they'd have that prickly issue of the U.S. Navy sinking most anything they had sailing. Added to the U.S. Airforce picking off the bits left, if they tired an airborne invasion they'd lack any heavy weaponry to be able to hold the limited gains they'd make. Oh and that's not including the various navies of the NATO counties which aren't exactly two guys in a dingy either.
Yes people like me exist, Vietnam was lost largely to public opinion at home, the war on terror faced enough opposition at home to severely damage the campaign. You can't deny that American people have a weak mindset when it comes to war when you look at recent history.
Russia and China aren't even allies. Right now they're fighting for influence over Central Asia. As China continues to get stronger they're gonna be setting up camp in Russia's backyard with former USSR countries. Like I said before, the EU alone could steamroll Russia two times over. Russia may have 6 million troops, but if a war breaks out, they won't be able to use them all because their country is broke. Even if they could mobilize everyone, their infrastructure would be so bombed by that point that it would be pointless. Even if we ignore that and say they could get all the troops into Europe, Russia won't stand a chance against modern weaponry, considering the fact that they're still in the 1980's in terms of weaponry. Now if you look at China, you'll realize that they also lack military technology. But that's not even the biggest deterrent. First of all, they lost good relations with Russia in 1978 when they abandoned Stalinism. Second of all, they need the EU and USA as a market. If they lost those markets, millions of people would become unemployed and starve.
Wow, I never knew the world was so black and white, I've been wasting so much time looking at the shades of grey. People who can take the complexities of global politics and boil it down to a couple of sentences or a graph scare the crap out of me. I believe the anti-American crowd have been crying America's Last Days since the mid 80s. To the OP, do you watch the news? The EU is being propped up by Germany, the UK and maybe a couple other countries. The U.S. Is far from perfect, but anyone who believes their own slice of heaven doesn't have racism, crime or citizens dissatisfied with their government is an idiot.
*ahem* Russia is no longer in the 1980's as 'murica likes to assume. Secondly, Putin has made some great progress with russia's economics, its not the best but its still progress. Third, have you ever heard of nuclear deterancy? Russia might not have the manpower but they have a leader with balls who constantly spits in the face of the west/NATO/EU. Oh and he has almost 1/3 of the worlds nukes. Lastly, China, India, Russia, and now their new lil friend Syria are almost allies. No offical pact between China/India/Russia, but their relations have been looking good lately. China will pursue its own intrests, Russia will do the same, India is quite close to Russia but they will do the same, Syria having a defense pact with Russia is beneficial to them both. As for the rest of this thread? I didnt want to post of get involved since everyone here is more focused on fixing whats is unfixable VS completely scrapping it and starting a new or at least reform. My views are much much more politically Incorrect, and i honestly don't think kaw forums is the place to talk about these things.
Hmmm? 1. Russia is basically literally in the 1980's. There's facts to prove it. Only 10% of their army uses modern weapons. They're having trouble competing with Canada in the resource industry because their technology is so bad. 2. Russia may not have the manpower? Their army has more people than America's and their economy is in the toilet because of Putin's diplomatic skills. 3. India is almost certainly not allies with China. They are trade partners, but there's still more Indians and Chinese with negative views of one another than positive. They still have unresolved border disputes with China and the borders have been militarized
You do realise that unlike America, Russia ahead the capability to turn its whole country into a war machine over night. You're judging a country using facts that you're allowed to see. And you fail to see the unique trade partnership that's happening between India, China, Russia, Brazil, South Africa and with more counties following suit. There's more ways to control than to have a tech advantage, which is the only thing America has over everyone. Between 5 countries they control virtually the world by controlling a vast majority of resources, production and power with the brics, or NDB alliance. For this reason Russia China India and others will topple the USA weather you like it or not. The USA plays peace keeper of the world so of course it's going to have a recognised military power, but as I said Russia can become a war machine over night. Stop relying your information on what Fox News and pro America channels tell you and look for those signs yourselves.
Wolfie you realise the bric economic grouping hasn't exactly bathed in glory in recent years ? Both china and Brazil have had economic slowdowns, India is struggling with massive corruption and poverty issues South Africa is divided by significant racial issues. As for Russia the eu and us sanctions have been causing some significant economic issues they have a significant military force but it's not the juggernaut of the old USSR
Isn't most of Russia's economy driven by the price of oil and isn't a barrel of oil 45$ or so and doesn't Russia need oil prices to be around 125$ a barrel
They can always just cut off the gas to Europe and see how much they can get when general winter arrives.
Russia can't make a war machine over night. It's economy is garbage. If it wanted to fund a big army then half of its people would have to starve, which would just cause the country to collapse in on itself.