Nightmare , your posts are ill conceived and pointless rhetoric . You use the word obvious many times as an adjective in an attempt to reiterate a programmed response. ZAFT would not accept your defense of them on the simple premise that your argument is non Authentic and would probably farm you before me. So shut yo goofy self up - bow down to a farmer who is greater than> you. The only Nightmare I recognize is a MaCHiNe KotFE Lord, not you peasant forum scum ZAFT nut rider.