Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc

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Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

CanadianGal said:
Here's what likely happened. A mod knew it needed a lock but wasn't sure if it should be deleted or not so he/she locked it and moved it to a forums topic that's only accessible to mods, for review by the other mods. Then the mods would have discussed it in a private third party app and it was probably decided to put it back in forums until ata support could have a look. Therefore, ata probably made the final decision to delete it or at least remove it from the public view.

PS: I didn't see the thread and I'm not on either side of this war. Just saying what probably happened. If I'm right, it means that whoever initially locked and hid it wanted to make sure they weren't inadvertently being biased so... You can't claim a conspiracy on this one 

Yes I can. I saw the thread. The Mod didn't decide to lock it. The Mod was asked to lock it by the OP. There wasn't anything on it that warranted it being deleted. No bypasses. No personal information. Nothing.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Then you should take it up with the devs joe mama because it looks like they made the decision. And even if they didn't, it wasn't just one mod, was more than one, which negates your little conspiracy theory.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Malestone7469 said:
CG used to be Mod.
So I with her on this

I go with my eyes. I've played this game for years. I know what's not permitted to be posted and what isn't. There was nothing against ToU on that thread.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

CanadianGal said:
Then you should take it up with the devs joe mama because it looks like they made the decision. And even if they didn't, it wasn't just one mod, was more than one, which negates your little conspiracy theory.

It wouldn't be the first time a couple of Mods got caught doing something wrong, would it CG?
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Joe_Mama said:
Malestone7469 said:
CG used to be Mod.
So I with her on this

I go with my eyes. I've played this game for years. I know what's not permitted to be posted and what isn't. There was nothing against ToU on that thread.
You've played this game for years with your statless alt and 7 day badge. Post with a main or get out, no one respects an alt.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Smokintough said:
You've played this game for years with your statless alt and 7 day badge. Post with a main or get out, no one respects an alt.

Ooh, what about me? xD don't look at the stats, just the badge 
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Oh darling, the sequence of events in itself tells you that it was probably an ata decision in the end.

I also don't know what you're implying about mods doing something wrong, but it seems like you're just grasping at straws to try and discredit me.

Here's one for you, I decided to quit my mod position by myself because I didn't agree with certain policies  I also have no love for the devs or support and anyone who knows me and my history know that - and it's got nothing to do with why I quit as moderator. Soooo... There is no way in hell I would defend them unless I sincerely thought you were barking up the wrong tree.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Now how about you get back to discussing the topic at hand instead of making frivolous and baseless accusations? 

Any problems with past locks should be discussed with ata support, not in a forum post (especially when it's not even on that topic).
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

CanadianGal said:
Now how about you get back to discussing the topic at hand instead of making frivolous and baseless accusations? 

Any problems with past locks should be discussed with ata support, not in a forum post (especially when it's not even on that topic).

Darling, if the player in my PM's is telling the truth, you can judge for yourself in about 10 minutes. He says he copied the whole thing, codes and all. I'm waiting on the email.
 
Re: 300 T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Joe_Mama said:
CanadianGal said:
Now how about you get back to discussing the topic at hand instead of making frivolous and baseless accusations? 

Any problems with past locks should be discussed with ata support, not in a forum post (especially when it's not even on that topic).

Darling, if the player in my PM's is telling the truth, you can judge for yourself in about 10 minutes. He says he copied the whole thing, codes and all. I'm waiting on the email.

Why post on a stat alt huh? All talk no balls? Yea what I thought
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Alrighty let me just throw a little clarity your way.

1. Was asked to lock thread.
2. LOCKED IT.
3. It was moved to gy.
4. I saw this and moved it BACK into AT.
5. Support found the thread to be in order and filed it elsewhere.

Now having said that this whole controversy could have been avoidedhad the thread remained open initially.

I am on neither side of the conflict. the thread would have been locked regardless of who asked whether it be Zaft or Apoc.

In my opinion if it's a thread alleging specific actions leading to war then any thread should be left open for both sides views.

anyway, thank you for your time.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Your_Karma_Bill_Is_Due_Nooblet said:
Alrighty let me just throw a little clarity your way.

1. Was asked to lock thread.
2. LOCKED IT.
3. It was moved to gy.
4. I saw this and moved it BACK into AT.
5. Support found the thread to be in order and filed it elsewhere.

Now having said that this whole controversy could have been avoidedhad the thread remained open initially.

I am on neither side of the conflict. the thread would have been locked regardless of who asked whether it be Zaft or Apoc.

In my opinion if it's a thread alleging specific actions leading to war then any thread should be left open for both sides views.

anyway, thank you for your time.


That doesn't explain why it's not accessible anymore though. Other locked threads are. You can't post on them but you can read them. This one isn't accessible at all. It says "Not Authorized".
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Hey stupid noob, check the thread. now go ahead and being out your main so you can get smashed. Or just keep it up and keep posting on an alt on things you obviously know nothing about.
 
Re: 300+T on Harb. (Zaft Carnage vs. Apoc)

Here's a copy of the original thread. I've read it and it looks the same.


"As many of you know, ZAFT does not usually post in the forum. Wars are not won here, and arguing on threads is pointless. But because of the large number of threads and speculation about this war, we have decide to post this response. Weezus has told us why Apoc is fighting, and supposedly why ZAFT has to fight. But here's the part that he leaves out. Apoc does hire hits themselves. IMF does it frequently, as many players know. He's done it to ZAFT members:

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The fact is, most of the leader board does hire hits. ZAFT just happened to have more leader board members. Apoc would like to present ZAFT as bullies, but they've done plenty of bullying themselves. They're not innocents. They do the same thing they accuse of ZAFT doing. They hire hit our members. Now here is the story behind some of those hire hits they posted:

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And the story behind Chy, who was hire hit first:

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Apoc claims their grievance is with Harbinger, yet they launched a surprise attack on every ZAFT clan except ZAFT UL. They carefully tried to keep ZUL out of the war. We all know why. The reasons is this war isn't about hire hits. This war isn't about leaders. This war is a continuation of the last war. Apoc has planned this for a long time. Hire hits are an excuse Apoc is using to make themselves appear as victims and their cause as a noble one. They aren't and it's not. This war is about dominating KaW, pure and simple. They couldn't do it the last time they attacked us, so after months of plotting and preparing, they're back.

Weezus, you tell us why we HAVE to fight. Here's why we WILL fight. We're ZAFT. If you attack us, we fight back. We don't back down. We don't care about numbers. We don't care about odds. We don't care about gold. We fight. We fight for our family. We fight for our clan. We fight for our friends. And we'll fight however long it takes.


Moderators, please lock this thread. We're not interested in debating."

Let's see how long this stays here.
 
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