_ballE_ said:
What was/is the reason that Kip is in this osw? You say Yafi started it. Lets talk about it!
Kotfe stripped Ben and he was crying/ ranting over it on his wall - the part that ppl love in this game?
In his rants he accused Yafi too - not because of the strip...so why he did it at this time? Nobody knows. Also his apology on ladycansems wall is still mixed with bitterness. Kip wanted to defend him so you are back in the osw...so who started it? Wondering why no one defended Ben against the stripper kotfe
In the past some accs were caught funding NA and it doesn't mean just buying one ally...isn't it interesting two accs (they were in swedish steel at this time) were Faerik and DanielNilsson?
At the end it's good to hear you enjoy the osw like we do it
Why is KiP in OSW vs yafi, and who started it - good question, easy to answer:
1. KiP is a eb clan, no need to start any OSW against anyone, but we are a family and protect our members
2. Los started OSW with KiP for no reason, and today most active yafi members used to be Los members
Los wrongfully claimed KiP was "bank" for NA and started farming a KiP member. OSW broke out.
A long time ago KiP was even in OSW vs NA. However, KiP was neither bank, meatshield or helped NA with any OSW before Los started hitting KiP.
Los claimed JoeBiff had alt in KiP. Half of KiP added Joe in their name - some still got that name addition.
KiP was not in alliance with NA. A few NA members had been KiP members a long time before OSW vs Los broke out. During the OSW vs Los KiP rediscovered the fun with OSW. During that time a few T strip was a big deal, and is was still possible with detonating allie bombs after the enemy hired wrong allie. KiP grew stronger during that OSW. Los fought well in the start, but their OSW fighting spirit was decreasing.
3. Los ran to yafi - including Balle the runner - and there was a mutual cf ending the Los vs KiP OSW.
4. KiP respected the mutual cf.
4a: Some KiP members, including myself as owner, got some inc from some yafi members several months after mutual cf. KiP can handle inc, and we don't run into any osw for no reason. So we continued with our eb's.
4 b: Yafi demanded KiP wrote cr tags when we got friends from NA visiting. KiP wrote cr tags and said KiP did not mess with NA members still hitting or receiving inc from yafi. Suddenly Secret service (former lb clan # 1) started hitting KiP because we had NA members on a short visit. KiP fought Secret service hard, and Kiki69 asked me for cf after a few days. It was pretty obvious that yafi's made Secret service attac us since Secret service first "demands" were copy&paste of the threats yafi had put forward to KiP a couple weeks earlier.
5. Atropa-bella-donna in ya__rise of honour__fi started hitting Ben. Ben had a banner that yafi didn't like, and he didn't say sorry the way yafi "demanded". Some kip members hit Atropa-bella-donna back (less than 5 times each). Yafi started hitting KiP, and OSW between KiP and yafi started.
6. Yes, kotfe had a strip on Ben during the same time as Atropa-bella-donna was hitting Ben. This was not related to OSW KiP vs yafi. Ben told me there was no reason to reteliate since he had pvp farmed some kotfe members - he said he was tired of yafi's trying to say what KiP should and should not do
7. Yes, Faerik and Daniel did some eb's at the clan Swedish steel. This has also nothing to do with OSW yafi vs KiP
8. KiP had - as usual - some members from Die nibelungen (DN) in our cr when OSW vs yafi started. Yafi started OSW against DN also - and still hit DN - for no reason.
Conclusion: Yafi's asked for it