I think ever since unmi and night made it, it gradually had ever increasing levels of drama and that’s never good for a family. That’s what Wingless was to a lot of us; family. It was kind of unsustainable due to that I think. It’s amazing reading names like Han and Kisses and Sawler and thinking of all the people that you just forget about over the years. Wingless Hell was a little later in its history, but I remember training new recruits at Winglings, the old subclan, as well as the terribly named pwar clan, where the osf’s were, Wingles Angels (nice spelling ) so there are definitely memories that linger. I don’t blame you for not knowing the full history of the clan of course lol. Not many people do. It just sounds odd to hear someone describe Tal’s attempted rebuild as a success, as in the long history of the clan, with osw’s and weekly system wars back in the day, Tal’s b2b HTE and the pathetic excuse for a warring system that existed at that time just seems pretty naff really. Side note - For anyone who was around back then, could someone remind me what our good friends and allies clan was named? I know it was something Chinese or Asian or something, but I’ve forgotten and I feel terrible about it lol
I don’t see what was so wrong about the success Tal had with Wingless Angels... It’s not like he killed the clan. The clan was already dead and he revived it and kept it up to date with the new KaW conditions that were not previously around. He did an excellent job.
Like I said, it’s reasonable to try and modernise a clan. But I don’t think that refusing entry to some old wingless members was a great idea. If it was truly in the spirit of wingless, it would’ve been more of an inclusive culture. Also, look at the clan page atm. This is the legacy of wingless for anyone who looks for it. They see a load of random names that no-one recognises. Unmi and night aren’t there. It’s sad to see that’s how he left it. Look, what he did was successful for the duration of its time, but anyone can run b2b HTE and become successful that way. What the wingless leadership before him did was create a tight knit family. While wingless did indeed die in the meantime, it at least had a good legacy. He took that legacy and edited it to a clan that ran HTEs and had a brief stint in a crappy war system. But hey, I’m going to have strong views on it because of how long I was member/admin/owner of various wingless clans over many years. So maybe I’m a little biased
Tal did decent, i remember a big problem with the people who didn't have $$ to put hte on daily, so lioness headed the hte clan mainly for a bit i wasn't able to drop seals then either so it was a dilemma at that time lol
Dilly is back around last I check. Also, a hello from Foxes. Our clans were friendly enough back in the day
Used to war together with Wingless_HanSolo and Bo_Cannon in 2011/2012... Thanks for the updates about Wingless as I was wondering what happened to HanSolo.
Well hello there. Just got back on this game after a decade. The Wingless clan page was a list of the remaining members when we last shut down. A few days ago I updated it to more accurately reflect our history. Thanks to this thread I’ve been able to add a couple more members to the Hall of Fame I had forgotten about. Wingless was the family I was “born into” in Kaw. My first clan was their beginners clan Wingless Winglings in the pwar era. While we weren’t extremely osw or farmer heavy, we also didn’t back down from a fight and were eager to come to the aid of our allies, namely the Ming Sect. Our family was very passionate, but we also had a fair dose of drama which would sometimes boil up to sudden rage-quit resets of clan leaders and admins. Unmi is one the closest friends I had in Kaw. I learned most of what I know about the game as well as leadership from him. When he reset the last time he asked me to care for Wingless, I did it to the best of my ability, desiring to make him proud. Anyone claiming we didn’t treat them well during that time is news to me because they never reached out or filed a complaint while I was active in the game. Kaw would soon became EB and EE war centric & we changed with the times, becoming a noteworthy System War clan of that era. When Unmi finally did return he was only partially active and turned down my offer to take leadership of WA back, soon after he dropped tags and went eb mercing which, not gonna lie, hurt a lot. So, with the help of friends, we kept things going at WA, running EE wars almost every day and racking up lots of wins. It all came crashing down when we had some major but petty drama in our council that caused irreparable damage in our trust of one another. Not long after, the pain of it all led to me doing a rage-quit reset too. Go figure 😂 I should’ve written this years ago but thank you everybody who was a part of Wingless for the fun ride we had together. I want to personally shout out Zattoichi, NightAngel, BryanPreston, & Lioness for giving significant time and energy to keeping the Wingless dream alive during the rebuild. For now Wingless Angels will remain a retirement clan for any inactive or semi-active former Wingless players who want to park there. If you spent a good amount of time in our family over the years & would like to be mentioned on clan page I’d be happy to include ya. -Tal