You receive all of your allies BTA into your raw stats, yes, which means in terms of BTA you only receive 2% of it, which is what I'm assuming she meant. Edit: I think everyone except for OP has been saying the same thing 50 different ways lol.
We're saying the exact same thing Ares. The waste part is in reference to the OP saying buy allies instead of upgrades.
Well that comes down to your style of play. The choice is: 1. Upgrade and get some big variable stats 2. Hire an ally and get smaller static stats
Exactly.. I get what Mango and the others are trying to say. They think of BTA as their stats. I'm just trying to break that habit and get people to use "raw" numbers instead. It's far less math in the long run when only having to convert 1 number rather than every other number in the game.
Every bonus you will ever see in this game is based on or directly adds into your raw stats. All the Clan Achievements, Player Achievements, Equipment, Spells, etc. Every single one. So it makes more sense to make 1 conversion than converting every other number to 2% of its actual value.
I should of just let this fade off AT, but i just wanted to actually refer to what you have stated in your op. About the guy that would supposedly lose to your "ally horsepower". In that scenario he must not have a single ally of his own? Im just curious cause the example sounds like you're implying that a respectable stat difference can easily be overcome by a significant amount of bfa. Well, yeah. I agree then. But unfortunately, you arent getting 40k off those allies. What you get is +800 when comparing to the person in your example. Your strength at full would still be less. Though around 60% troops you might start to even out... how about addressing that one specific example you just gave first. Quick question, How are you determining that stats you get from a new building/upgrade vs an equally cost, bfa hire?
The opponent had 1500 defense. Which would be 75K Raw Defense. I had 300 Attack plus a little over 100k in Ally Bonus. The 300 Attack equals 15k in raw stats. Add those together, a little over 115k in Raw Attack. We can make it 115k exactly for this example. A 40k Stat difference at full troops As I attack him, he losses 50 troops per attack. I lose 21. I only lose 630 strength per attack whereas he loses 1,500. After half a bar(12 attacks, 252 troops), he has 57,000 Defense strength(1,900 troops). I would still have 107,440(248 troops). Now that's a 50k difference in strength. All thanks to those allies. If you're wondering how I know what he'd have, it's magic. Mmk.
You're saying that it's a better bang for your buck to upgrade because you get a large stat boost. But the thing is, that strength changes as you attack. Ally bonus does not change as you attack. Wouldn't you rather have a higher chance of winning against those in your league? Another thing, the trading market can do you wonders if played right. Oh, and the fact that I'm looking at the leaderboard players and thinking 'Good luck'. Why try to play catch up when it's not possible, I think competing in a smaller league would be more interesting anyways. A lot more you can do as far as build changing mid-skirmish and plundering goes. Not to mention the fact that you don't have to pay an arm and a leg to fight for your spot on a meaningless leaderboard.
Ok I seen this and didn't add to it. But now after seeing anarchys thread and this being brought up again I feel the need because well.....that's me, I'm a glutton for punishment I suppose. First off, JAM if you are going to post ANYTHING fact related in the forums I think you should at least use an account with a little bit of credibility with itξ Now to the meat. From what I have seen debated It looks to me like more than a few have it half way mixed up. Including the misguided OP everyone's BTA (or what we see as a players "stat strength" for visual purposes) is indeed 2% of their total strength. Anyone with a calculator can do that math. That being said, nothing affects the BTA other than their total strength. I.E. equipment, pro packs, clan bonus ect... The easiest way to concept the strength gained from allies is to see it as actual strength gained. Take my stats. My raw attack strength is exactly 51,569,075. my BTA "the stat players see" is exactly 1,031,381 which WAH-LAH is 2% So now, lets throw in my BFA. If I amass 51,569,075 in ACTUAL attack BFA then I have effectively doubled my total attack strength. For intents and purpose you could say my "stat strength" is now 2,062,762!! Yes BFA is static and does not taper as was mentioned but it is easier to see it as strength while full. So now back to the OP's implications of allies being more powerful than raw stats dollar for dollar. Just adding 1M of "stat strength" via 50M BFA would cost multiple Trils bud. You are most definitely better in investing into your build as bang for buck over allies, even with the static effect no contest ξξ Also, you do indeed get 100% of an allies BTA. it just happens to be 2% of their total raw strength. That is why you see that number displayed, and not their raw strength. The math is already done for you when looking to hire them and add their bonus to your kingdoms strength. Had to post. If I'm not the first to put it this way apologies, I don't always have the patience to read every post on the thread.