USA vs China and Russia

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by -_Acnologia_-, Sep 8, 2016.

  1. And their ground battles would be where..? Shores of Dover?
     
  2. Umm their focus wouldn't just be at sea
     
  3. Not as tough as Japan, they die either way and will eventually surrender
     
  4. Well, no it wouldn't. But you're talking about Britain vs Germany.. Britain is an island, if you don't control the air and sea, it is not possible to invade.


    So I ask you, where would these land battles be?
     
  5. True, what about by air? They outperformed Britain's air force in WW2, I'd put the Luftwaffe against any other air force at that time
     
  6. They did out preform the The English until they changed their target from priority air bases in England to the bombings of just civilian population areas, one mistake hitler made was not continuing to destroy english air bases they lost many Luftwaffe planes hitting civilian targets if they had just stayed on hitting air bases England's air defence later would have been non existent it also would have laid a great chance of operation sea lion being a successful invasion of england.

    But (the german leader who must not be named)later in the war made to many tactical mistakes. Which the allies pounced on.
    Even the Luftwaffe struggled to have any impact after 1941 due to heavy losses of aeroplanes
     
  7. Well their airforce was much more advanced then Britain's thats for sure. They had like thousands of aerial victories against Britain double that against America. Thousands of their pilots achieved ace status, Im just going by their performance. They lacked defense but their offense was greater then Britain I believe
     
  8. There offence was not greater than britains.

    They fielded more aircraft, more pilots. Didn't utilise their dive bombers effectively and couldn't get to Britain with any element of surprise. Britains radar system ensured we were almost always ready for them. Their tactics in the air weren't tailored for the RAF.

    I'll get you some facts (not assumptions) after I've made kids breakfast
     
  9. Battle of Britain 1940 in numbers:

    British: 640 fighters

    German: 2600 fighters / dive bombers (hybrid fighters)


    Goering underestimate the effectiveness of Britain's Radar system, however it was the Observer Corps that enabled Britain to send the right amount of aircraft up. This combination allowed fighter command to effectively (not always, the German blitzes still killed 43,000 civilians) send a big enough force to counter the Luftwaffe.

    By October 1940 Britain had increased production phenomenally and was out producing the Germans (Ikr right? What a surprisingly industrious island)

    Aircraft and men lost July-October 1940;

    British: 1023 planes, 544 crew

    German: 1887 planes, 2600 crew.

    From then on mrH switched his plans and called off the invasion (which has been tested time and time again and never succeeded in testing) switching to the blitz tactics to keep Britain in Britain.

    So mr mad monk, I would advise you start getting your info from reputable sources. In no way, and at no point did the Luftwaffe out perform the RAF. They used inferior tactics, underestimated the British and made the ridiculous decision to start bombing cities instead of airfields, radar stations (which they only ever disabled one, for under 24 hours) and command stations.
     
  10. I just want to add, even if the RAF was destroyed, the Germans couldn't successfully pull off operation sealion. Over half of the German troops would of been lost to natural causes and they had no means to transport heavy vehicles across the channel. Even the men that wouldn't of been lost to the channel would of been sunk by the Royal Navy, the Luftwaffe wouldn't of been able to give sufficient air cover even with a non existent RAF.

    But, let's imagine that the Germans achieve a beachhead. They are now on an island were they will only be able to receive minimal reinforcements and supplies, an island were every man and probably woman will fight them at every turn. Churchill's we shall fight on the beaches speech was more than just propaganda.

    Operation Sealion was never within Germany's grasp.
     
  11. Were not the best yet you have to throw China and Russia against us to make it even competitive. Sounds legit.
     
  12. Every model the Pentagon runs in their super computers, show that United States and America would be destroyed, here is my theory and scenario, United States has lost several wars and continue to fight losing wars, any European conflict we be a "coalition of forces" including United States joined with NATO, EU, and UN forces, any proxy battleground chosen to engage will be obliterated it does not matter which Country happens to be in the way, so let's say Russia and China decide for whatever reason, diplomacy breaks down and there is no option but self defense of thier respected nations, (same reason United States attacks countries is defense) so China and Russia decide to invade, there are already millions of Russian and Chinese nationals here with citizenship and all rights reserved, anyone of them can attack from behind enemy lines, OK so the naval forces start making their way twards America, United States being only 10 square miles is pretty easy target so they send naval forces to intercept, Russian navy in the Atlantic, Chinese navy in the pacific, then a nuclear bomb goes off sinking some US ships, creating a tidal wave that causes death and destruction all along the east coast of the civilian population, so the counter attack subs launch nukes at Russia, Russia launches nukes at DC, China launches nukes to clear the way for its navy, US subs launch nukes at China, China launches nukes at Hawaii, this barrage of nuclear weapons continue back and forth, meanwhile in Europe land and air forces invade Russia and China, all the Russian and Chinese who are already here need to be rounded up and put into camps, that will be the police (the 5th largest army) the American people don't like being nuked and the police are killing everyone with a gun and everyone who looks Chinese or Russian, all human rights guaranteed by the bill of rights and the constitution go into the garbage, the UN and NATO forces are in Europe doing thier thing invading or nuking whatever they can, then nukes start being dropped on Europe, UN and NATO forces don't come to America to save you they have their hands full already trying land invasion, so once the battles in the pacific and Atlantic are finished now comes the land invasion of America, the people go to get their guns to defend our beloved country, only no one has any guns because they've been taken away by the United States regulations slowly over time with false flag mass shooting attacks and fictional terrorists no Americans can get guns or ammo, so the American people with axe handles and pitchforks try to survive a police encounter and try to fight the Chinese and Russian land forces, which are armed with tanks, heavy arms, and attack choppers, you can imagine this is not a fair fight, 300,000,000 people with guns could kill Russian & Chinese together or almost any occupation (except United States occupation) but we allowed our servants to take our power and then our guns so only the police have guns and they aren't going to give you any, well because you could be a terrorist, so the police get to fight off the Russians, Chinese, and Americans but they also have to capture all Chinese and Russian citizens, so quickly the American people will have to surrender and admit defeat and go hide in the fema concentration death camps, next if there is anything left of Europe there really is nothing to fight for the only option is to surrender or try to take over Russia and China and live there, but there is already nuclear waste coating everything so the quality of life even if they do win, will be as follows, going from doctor appointment to doctor appointment to get cancer causing radiation to treat the cancer caused by nuclear waste, only they can't pay for it because they're to weak to work and the doctors aren't going to give them anything for free they need the big house and fancy car, the pharmacist got to make money too, the drug companies need to get paid they did all the research and experiments, so the short answer is no one will win, and those who do win will quickly be riddled with cancers from nuclear fallout, and die a slow painful death because the cures are ignored, covered up, and illegal, within a few generations mankind will be extinct, accept for the few hundred elite who caused the whole war in the first place will emerge from their super secret underground bunkers shoot any survivors on sight so there is no memory or record of their crimes, and begin attempts to repopulate the Earth only thing is after a lifetime of being waited on and throwing money at everyone to do everything for them, they don't know how to operate a shovel or make a 2x4, any fantastic palace or castle they think they deserve will have to be built by them and for them, they will begin fighting among eachother and killing eachother over who will be the servant and who will be the master, eventually killing themselves off and the last guy is left with a throne of bones to sit on he's king of the world and he's starving to death because he can't hunt, fish or cook anything, and the last man on Earth cries alone on his throne of bones as king, no one is left to fill his orders or do his bidding, he could try to wander the Earth looking for survivors or kill himself.
     

  13. I never said that you're not the best overall, military. However you are not the best in EVERY aspect.

    Some people either auto hate on the USA, or just cant see its military faults and inadequacies.

    You have enough people, and tech to overpower any single foe put against you, that doesn't mean you're brilliant at everything.
     
  14. I think the greatest nation on earth is the peoples republic of Antarctica. The current gdp is 600,000 fish a year with 4,900 krill a week for social security benefits
    The crime rate is rather high, though, since many seals are forcefully inserted into by polar bear claws and teeth, and many penguins have to forcefully carry egg between their legs.

    However as a gtustah You will fit right in!

    The 'land' is prime real estate, right on the water(literally on frozen water).
    The current population is low, but many nalea travel to the ice chunk ready coppulate, so gemalq should arrive ready to procreate.

    Vote for Antarctica for the next big ting on da ring of cold, Zeh artic circle!
     
  15. Only one problem the unforseen Russia unfortunately had something we don't which is the capability of launching emp bombs from space disabling all technology we have and yet rendering us back to the ice age and making all of our planes obsolete along with any other weapons we have including nukes which would detonate on impact of electrity was cut off but all bombs would explode in America setting off catastrophic events all over world
     
  16. or What that guy said ^ :)
     
  17. $16,000 is required to equip one US soldier, and that's basic needs. During war I believe the US will get killed financially unless they get help from allies. China has 1 billion people to pay taxes and have a ridiculous amount of money laying around at their disposal, and Russia have so much equipment left over that they don't need to stock up much more. The US will cripple financially before the war ends.
     
  18. Unfortunately this point is sad but true as well.;(
     
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  20. Just read this whole thing.... more of a history lesson than anything
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