USA vs China and Russia

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by -_Acnologia_-, Sep 8, 2016.

  1. Lol idc  I only know you're butthurt euro trash who's ungrateful to the country that saved yours ("twice") ...just hope in your lifetime we don't have to do it a 3rd time so you won't have to eat your words.
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  2. In the end, they waved the white flag. Giving up that war cause they had no choice. Had it not been for that whole propaganda against America Viet Cong leader would have lost. And it would have been majority all of America's doing
     
  3. America withdrew too, doesn't matter if it was militarily or politically, you lost lmao
     
  4. Our military strength didn't lose though, France did lol
     
  5. And last I checked this thread ain't about politics
     
  6. loser we beat your ass twice then we save your ass twice that's why you do our bidding now 

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  7. It's about a war, politics has a direct impact on wars. Such as in Vietnam, politics caused you to lose the entire war.
     
  8. But it didn't matter cause in the end communism didn't succeed. Also no comparison with France, France has been a punching bag throughout the centuries
     
  9. Your right but this is about military strength, And America is better that aspect then France the legendary warriors
     
  10. You really aren't dumb enough to believe that whole communism and domino theory stuff? You do know that before the war Ho Chi Minh was a great lover of the United States. While he was communist he had a love for many aspects of US politics and wanted to integrate those into Vietnam. He always worked for the US in ww2 providing intelligence against Japan.
     
  11. Maybe maybe not
     
  12. Saved who twice...you did sweet FA in WW1 other being laughed at by the allied soldiers , less than pathetic... WW2...spent first 2 years on the sidelines resting up from doing nothing in the first war , whilst the allies were slowly starting to turn the tide
    Nothing more than Jonny Come Lately Doughboys
     
  13. It is true that America was useless in WW1, they used outdated tactics and were considered a joke by troops of other nations. In fact the only soldiers I can think of from America that excelled in the war were the Harlem Hellfighters and America didn't even allow them a frontline role because they were black, it wasn't until they were handed over to French command who weren't as racist that they were given an opportunity, and under French leadership they shined.
     
  14.  the only joke is you you idiot ...go brush your teeth 

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  15. Todd has to go to other means of insulting people rather than replying to a counter argument.

    I wonder who's argument I am going to agree with.
     
  16. First ww your right but without our troops france wouldve lost pretty much leaving britain fighting a war by itself no denying it we arent the sole reason the allies won ww 1 but we helped

    Now second ww the only tide turning after the first 2 yrs was the german leader shooting himself in the foot and turning on the soviets ,britan was losing on all fronts france already gone without our resources britain wouldve fallen only when america got truly involved did we save europe and north africa among others im not boasting but all it takes is alittle research even churchhill stated and said that they needed americas help and would not have made it
     
  17. Incorrect actually Sparta.

    Germany would've had to have starved Britain to invade our little island.

    That's pretty hard to do without air superiority (which they didn't have, despite numbers the RAF was superior in every respect)

    It's pretty hard to do without naval superiority (which they didn't have, the Royal Navy was still a force to be reckoned with.


    If you don't have either or both of those there was zero chance of invading Britain. MrH knew that, the shores of Dover would've ran red for years no matter how many troops he put to it.

    Whilst it's true his mistake was turning against Russia, he had achieved his revenge on the French. He could simply have waited a year or two and then offered Britain a deal, then turned to Russia. Whether Britain would've taken that deal or not, who knows?
     
  18. This really has me intrigued now , please inform me Sparta how exactly the US "saved" Europe and North Africa?
     
  19. To be fair, without any USA interaction at all, the axis would have beaten Britain, eventually. (By beaten I mean starved into submission / peace) however the British people are notoriously stubborn and unbending.

    though the people that trump that the USA 'saved' Europe etc always neglect to remember the HUGE financial profit the USA gained from ww2, it rebooted the American industrial scene and propelled them to superpower status, not including various territories taken from the British to help fund it, and the generous loans given to the uk it's considered that actually Britain got everything from the USA for FREE during war time, it was the rebuilding loans that paid for them. (only recently paid off- after 61 years)
     
  20. There's actually several historians that argue that the empire would of invaded Europe by 1947 if they were fighting alone on their front.