The capability to win a war. The Vietnam war is a perfect example of how America's war machine is handicapped by the weak stomached American population
You made excuses for the the American revolution, stop be biased and tell it like it is. Its more to it then just a win
Were you not the one who downplayed their win in the revolution due to their allies Spain, and France
The Spanish, French and the Dutch, and no I didn't downplay it. I said it as it was. That's not relatable to Vietnam tho
I never said its was related, but you say Im manipulating this debate, I admit they lost as it says in the books in that sense. They lost because they couldn't stop them from completing their goal due to many reasons. But make no mistake their military power was ineffective against the US. Once they decided to leave their goal the north's goal was set, America was the only thing stopping them. France the so called warriors couldn't do squat.
The leader of Viet Cong just threw troops into the battle to be massacred for the sake of his goals. But ya history shows it, their has never been a successful government that is fully runned by communism
It did matter because America never achieved its goal,fact of the matter is that your country and population couldn't handle some rice farmers who had fought the French and sent them packing and your military might thought that it was going to be an easy victory
Wrong. Lol Do you see the Asian Country conquered by Americanism. Nothing to be proud of there. Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, Japan, Korea 1. Loads of guns on the streets 2. Loads of prostitutes 3. The people of the country >>> miserable 4. Everyone is after the Joneses 5. Still under American Rule Other countries, in Asia not under Americanism: All live more peaceful lives
They knew they couldn't militarily defeat the US military in battle, that wasn't the Vietnamese strategy. The strategy was to defeat the US government which they succeeded in doing by turning the US population against the war to such an extent that America had to pull out of Vietnam. Also France faired better than America did against the Vietnamese. French Numbers: France: 190,000 Local militias: 55,000 State of Vietnam: 150,000 Total: 400,000 Viet Minh numbers: Regulars: 125,000 Regional: 75,000 Irregulars: 250,000 Former Imperal Japan Volunteers: 5,000 Total: 450,000 Casualties: France: deaths: 94,000 Injuries: 64,000 Vietnam: Viet Minh deaths: 175,000-300,000 Let's look at America's war American side: South Vietnam: 1,500,000(1974-75) America: 536,000 South Korea: 50,000 Thailand: 11,500 Australia: 7,600 Philippines: 7,600 New Zealand: 550 Spain: 30 Total: 2,480,000 North Vietnamese side: North Vietnam: 287,000 China: 170,000 (1965-69) North Korea: 300-600 Total: 461,000 Casualties American side: Deaths: 479,500-807,000 Injuries: 1,490,000 North Vietnam: Deaths including civilians: 510,100-1,166,000 Injuries: 604,000 So what can we see from all this? France inflicted double to triple the amount of deaths against their opponents despite being outnumbered. America most probably inflicted more deaths to the north Vietnamese than the NVA inflicted to their side but numbers aren't certain, the American side had far more casualties. The American side also outnumbered the NVA by 5-6 to 1 and had superior equipment. so this is a pitiful display by America their allies.
Stupid, America never seeked to control Vietnam, also I don't know what peacefulness your talking about, after that war their economy was in a terrible state. Then here comes the Vietnam Cambodian war going full scale leading up to the Cambodian genocide. No peace there buddy
It's really not that black and white, it would never be just the those three superpowers slugging it out, it would literally draw in most other countries in some form of alliance or treaty or pact of some sort. You can't have a US, China, Russia event without it ultimately culminating into a world war
America had 58,315 casualties, and 303,664 wounded. We had less casualties and more casualties were dealt to north Vietnam & Viet Cong. America is also responsible for most of their casualties