Actually, all my admins offered to help & some members too but a real owner wouldn't allow them to pay for their positions.
I guess when your running hte's 24/7, you can pay for the spots easily enough. As always it's for those that pay to play.
Honestly the cost, although I think it is pricey, is not the biggest problem for the average clan. I personally have not been to a hte clan and maybe this clan structure would work well with a clan of that nature. But for a clan running regular ebs, especially with these events that promote clan hopping to meet these goals, not having plenty admins that can help watch door and keep ebs running b2b is not a good option. Ive stated my concerns and even stated what I think can be a workable option. But the current clan structure will not make clan management easier and again I do not understand why kaw feels the need to limit positions, besides owner position of course.
I absolutely hate the idea of paying money to change roles or ownership you're making me want to quit this game and disband my clan I can spend my money on better things than a game I have made many friends in this game I will miss them but in my opinion this is just too much work
I'm not nearly as annoyed by the cost of the roles (although ridiculous to pay to do more for the clan) as I am about the actual roles. The cost is a one time obstacle. We asked for a co-owner, we didn't get it! Why? The roles should increase in power! Adding abilities to each level, not taking some away. Why do we need more people that can change a clan page than watch the door. Ridiculous!Very few need access to the clan page. But helpful to have several in each time zone to help with the door. Would rather see a true co-owner position and 3-4 ranks, with each rank having more power as they move up
and no limits on the number in each. Each rank should only have the authority to change the rank of those in a lower rank. (Since when can a private demote a lt col?) As it stands, I do NOT support the changes. (Not that you seem to care) Did we ask for changes? Yes! But this is not what I hoped for. Apparently our opinions don't matter! Where are the responses. Other than potentially changing the one name, have any changes been made?
Yes I would like to know this too. Will all members of the clan be able to pay for this? Will the controls be there for assignment, but just no fancy banner without payment, since each clan depends on its admins to keep ebs running etc? Will this be something the Clan Owner will have to pay for out of their pile only? Or will this be something each appointed admin must make purchase of? So many questions, but really makes a difference. Please provide answers. Thank you.
Nearly every page of this thread is full of negative feedback and you're still going through with this?
Why is there so much emphasis on the cost for the positions,that is not the problem the problem is the lay out.Separating the duties of a admin is one of the problems,reducing the number of admins who can except applications is a major problem,all admins are responsible for all aspects of assisting the owner.A Co-Owner position and a head admin are the only changes that are actually required and from the past requests I've seen are the only position changes asked for.The other positions and the muting aspect I can see for the war clans for cc spammers,These position should be in market place for the clans that actually want these changes and can be bought volunterally rather than forcing the changes on a near perfect running system.
The current system has many flaws, too. Don't ever refer to it as "near-perfect". You see the duties of the current admin-system can be abused while the clan owner is asleep or on vacation. As a clan, the owner has the right to impose some set of rules. An admin can make some exemptions to those rules while the owner is not around. Which makes other players(members) wander around clan hopping. You see, the current admin has too much "power" or too much duties.
No support. The feaures I have seen asked for are! Head admin/s Clan bank Co Owner/s Most important request. Was auto readmin when menber rejoins a clan! How is it you can still rolling this update out when requested features asked for not even there. over 80 pages of vairous hate for this update and issues unadessed! You shouldnt have pay be admin with less features. Plus you kill this game with short sightedness. By charging gold for what should be free and we had free. So new player clans for training cant function Why do you kaw admin devs what ever wish be called. Adress the fundermental issues we have!
If that is happening with a admin what will these new positions do to stop that,the owner has the ability to remove the admin position from that person.With this proposed system it could still happen.
I agree with Anacondua. If admins are abusing their power then it's the owners dutie to take care of the issue. Admin titles are given and can be taken away. If admins can't take care of the clan when the owner isn't on, maybe they need new admins to run the clan as its suppose to be.
What happens when we leave clan? What happens if we want to transfer ownership to another member? What happens when we want to transfer ownership to another member but that member already has a position? What happens if a player with a ton more gold comes to ones clan and buys the war chief position and takes over clan? So many questions ..
Head Admin? Commander has only 4 less abilities than the clan owner themself and has 5 slots; oh look you got 5 head admins with a different name. Clan bank, why would you advertise who in the clan that is? No seriously I don't get this, knowing who holds all the allies or funds in a clan is just poor osw tactic. Co-Owner? You don't need to buy more than one slot of War Chief, it is an option meaning you don't have to have more than one Co-Owner or you can have up to three! Autoadmin is just lazy, if you don't have time to set aside to manage a clan, just don't manage the damn clan! Don't be lazy in a text based tap tap game, that's just sad. Paying for extra role slots is a good way to bring inflation down as it is something decently priced that isn't another set of 25 lands and a tier. Remember this game's economy is endless and based around money that randomly spawns upon actions and completed epics and wars. The problem is people wanting their way in a game they have no creative right in, you have suggestions not demands that must always be catered to just you cause you spent some money. So what if you've dropped a few thousand dollars into this game over 3 years, ATA is making tens of thousands a day and with this new free nob option they'll make more in advertising revenue. 800 posts isn't a lot, doubt every 6-8 posts is a different person making decent points against this system. Making the number of people who don't support this at around a few hundred if that. In a game of 30-50 thousand actives monthly, what's the whiney entitled opinion of a few hundred players who didn't get their way?
All i see that is needed is perhaps 2 spots for head admin that has the same duties as the owner and can only make changes to members below their rank. Ranks as; Owner Head Admins Admins
This new system limits the power of what can be done, someone who worked their way up to Captain tries to mess around well he'll never see war chief or commander. If the devs are smart they'll just switch clan owner to War Commander and all members and admins to soldier, since it is the lowest role and the slots are free and promote who they want having a lot of power and those they want to have little to no power.