Trump - Republican Candidate?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Seth, Dec 11, 2015.

  1. Self importance much?

    America is driven by profit, half of the issues you raised were created by the west in the first place.

    arguably the US is responsible for ww2.

    On the point of ww2, the English Channel enabled the (then) strongest navy in the world and some of the bravest pilots ever to take to the skies (from all the allied nations) to protect the single most important location in the entire war. You forget that should Britain have been lost, the enigma code wouldn't of been broken, there would have been no d-day, no second front. Britain couldn't push Germany back alone, however the Brits held of a numerically vastly superior and arguably better equipped army and Air Force for an entire year.

    Whilst profit driven America was selling to the axis powers and the allied powers, Britain was being crumbled into the ground.
     
  2. Nothing you just said does a thing to deminish the truth of anything I said..."no worrries free world, if the United states falls Britains got you" lol come on now
     
  3. I still think Trump originally entered the presidential race as a tax write-off with the added bonus of free publicity and self promotion.
     
  4. I've made comments mostly about trump or in response to uneducated people making claims like America is solely responsible for liberating Europe.

    And I am from Northern Ireland a country that went through decades of civil war and rich Americans supplied weapons to the IRA that led to the deaths of innocent civilians, British soldiers and British and Irish police officers. So thanks very much for they freedom you are babbling on about.
     
  5. Britain done their hundreds of years of being international police but don't think the United States is that important either, remember that without countries like Britain and France that America wouldn't make a single move against Russia. As for Britain protecting the free world if America falls, a case could be made that major EU, NATO and Commonwealth countries could do the job, which many of them actually already do.
     
  6. v love to expose your logic behind DDay, Operation Overlord not helping to stop Germany ? The mere threat of an allied invasion had tied down millions of german troops and labourers. Had that invasion been a failure it's likely Germany may have tried to get a separate peace with the ussr. Using the failure of the western powers to provide a meaningful second front would have suited Stalin handily.
     

  7. Are you claiming entire responsibility for overlord was American?

    Lest you forget, without the enigma code broken, it would not have been possible, without an island nation to launch from, it would not have been possible.


    Also,


    French laborers conscripted by Nazis paced distances between obstacles or kept trakc of German troop movements. A house painter, hired to redecorate German headquarters in Caen, stole a blueprint of Atlantic Wall fortifications. French Resistance networks passed on precious bits of information, particularly the condition of bridges and canal locks. Wireless telegraph operators transmitted in bursts to evade German radio-detection teams.
     
  8. I said that Britain stopped Germany's advance on the western front which is true, both historians and modern military commanders agree that after the Battle of Britain, that it was not possible for Germany to invade Britain. Dday is irrelevant in the subject of stopping the German advance as the advance was already stopped.
     
  9. I know I'm coming in late, but America goes through periods of isolationism, where the majority of people in America don't want to play world police. Selling to both sides was not a profit move, but a move to stay out of the war while helping their allies. America gets so much flak for everything they do :roll:
     
  10. Other neutral countries stayed out of the war without helping Germany. Ireland for example showed benevolent neutrality to Britain by opening up the Donegal corridor to Allied planes but not to Nazi planes, they shared intelligence and reported ship movement to Britain and they sent fire engines to help Belfast recover from the blitz.
     
  11. This is true. We would sell to both to stay out of the war while making a profit. But as soon as the axis powers were starting to lose the very vast majority went to the allied powers. Now whether you want to believe this was because they were allies or because they were the side that would most likely pay them back is entirely up to you.
     
  12. Where is Ireland? Right next to Britain. So ya. No way they were selling to the other guys 
     
  13. Where is America? Right next to Canada who was in the war right?
     
  14. What the hell was Canada going to do? England had been the dominant force on that island for years. If Ireland had did something, they would have payed for it.
     
  15. Ireland was split in 1921 due to violence, Britain could not afford to go back to that violence. And even if they didn't sell to the other side, Ireland had no obligation to open the Donegal air corridor for Britain or to assist Belfast recover after the Blitz.
     
  16. Big enough sanctions would have devastated them.
     
  17. Britain and Ireland were in a trade war from 1932-38 and while it had a big impact on Ireland they survived just fine. They would of survived.
     
  18. v worth remembering Ireland was also one of the very few countries to put flags at half mast for the death of Adolf.
     
  19. Ireland sent condolences to Germany following his death, I have yet to read anywhere about them flying the flag at half mast. De Valera done this because it was in his view political protocol for a neutral nation.
     
  20. Ireland supported him lol