Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] A simple theory Einstein had that was revered as his biggest blunder. In recent time it's been discovered that it was not such a crazy idea after all of I had links to all the articles and videos on this I'd show you so now I guess I shall look them up. (Static being that it keeps going because at first it seemed like his theory would mean the universe would close in on itself but as it is static constantly pushing outwards it seems it might not) sorry if this doesn't make sense it has been a while since I researched this but I'm sure you get the gist of it.
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] Haha was not intentionally doing so! Just wanted to hear some scientific theories as I am loving this topic and this is a science thread not religion
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] B4 Big Bang if u believe that's what happened everything was held in such a small space that it was about the size of a cup and somehow it blew up (notice that's a nuclear bombs we make on earth inside a mass like that wouldn't even make a tiny dent as the gravitational pull was so massive) what broke it apart? Tbh I don't think anything could have anyway moving on when it blew up is when they start counting time. So b4 that maybe who knows how long that black hole or whatever u wanna call it was there for. Even so I don't understand how infinite space means infinite time
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] So basically, you're saying there was a beginning to and infinitely expanding future?
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] There is some debate as to the size being smaller or larger Than a cup some say head of a pin others say other things.
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] Hate to quote it all, but too much to delete Infinite time cannot have a beginning, because with a beginning, there is a present, and it becomes measurable as something less than infinity.
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] What I meant by this was that: 1) Infinite time cannot be in the past, because that would mean that you are travelling in time beyond infinity and you could have already experienced a heat death. I realise there are different "values" of infinity, but my belief is that this universe does not have an infinite past. I have NO CLUE about whether this is wrong in the "other universes" or perhaps this before ours. 2) Theoretically, infinite time can, and always will, remain in the future. It's like walking backwards on an escalator, at the same speed that it is travelling forwards. Although you may keep walking for days, you will never reach the final goal (the end of the escalator), since there is a net velocity of 0.
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] Ahh thanks! I love the fact that we don't know and any one of these possibilities could be the answer, one day we'll have it figured out...hopefully
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] So basically, you're saying there was a beginning to and infinitely expanding future?[/quote] I must first say sorry I had to break the quote code rather than delete everything but the response I feel this theory makes the most sense if paired with the BANG theory (ha I made a pun)
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] But at that point, Mercutio, as I replied to Static with, if there is a beginning, there is a present, and everything becomes measurable to something smaller than infinity.
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] Btw we are currently expanding till gravity pulls everything which would then b a end of time when it falls back in on itself.
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] Unless the Big Crunch exists (which I support). My theory is that gravity will eventually slow the universe to zero expansion, causing total entropy or the half way mark for the Big Crunch (or both). I think that the force of everything compacting on itself might be enough to counter act gravity, forcing the universe to rebound.
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] Time is relative to a beginning as in 0 n travels forward from that point. Infinite is no known end n hence termed infinite. If for example the BIG BANG created this universe time started then as pertaining to the universe. That does not say the mass whether a pin or a cup did not pre-exist. Its time would be measured in some other unknown term. Earth it self has a time-line starting at its creation. That said is it possible that time could go in the opposite direction? We already know Hubble's images r from the past due to the time it takes light to travel. As for gravity i was corrected in an earlier forum. Mass creates gravity and space contains no mass. Therefore the laws of inertia apply. There needs to be an opposing force to slow what is in motion.
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] Energy could still flow between atoms at zero expansion, at least given that we weren't already at complete entropy. So the end of expansion wouldn't induce complete entropy.
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] We see the past not due to time flowing opposite, but rather due to light having a finite speed, and taking time to reach us. Like thunder after a lightning strike, we experience the effects after the event. After, because time flows forward.
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] The lack expansion causes things to stagnate within the universe. At this point, because expansion has stopped (most likely due to gravity), it will start to compact on itself (every action has an equal and opposite reaction), thus causing heat death due to increased kinetic energy influenced by compression of the universe.
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] The only way to reach the speed of light is with infinite energy, and in a finite universe, that is impossible.
Re: The Universe is NOT Infinite [Proof] Gravity from what? The universe is expanding with no opposing force yet known.