Greetings players. A few notes on when I post in forums before I get to my point. Some clown will come on and try and make themselves a real boy instead of Pinocchio by calling me out to PVP or saying my stats are small because for 5 years all I did was pound noobs like them. As much fun as it is to troll them back there's little point anymore. Now, on to my point. The original thrust of this game and the thing which brought excitement was PVP and the treat of losses against the gains you made there. There were clans who HATED each other. Clans were actually built on hating everyone and fighting those oppressors. (Well, the first 2 clans anyhow) The beginning of the downfall was the system war. That lead to gold farming which lead to the game developers building an PvE gold farming system. From there they added items and land and escalation in order to keep changing money to advance for most players on the highest order. In that same time they altered the scale of losses and what they did to a player. Basically a stripout is one order magnitude lower than what it originally was. So the only thing left is conversation with the community. Growth makes absolutely no sense anymore because the scale makes no sense. Next month there will be items 10x the size of what you have now, and new lands will be open and the ally market will plod along just as it always has. The community is dying also. I have recently popped across a few clans. Cc is dead everywhere. War clans, eb clans, retirement clans... your clan. Take a look. So, ATA will keep this game as long as it's making money. I don't have any insight into how much this game makes against what it costs to operate. ATA has more devs than it ever has, so it must be making money, but I can't imagine this game will retain viability much longer with its current trajectory. Now, a prediction of 1 more year has only the option of being clearly debunked a year from now by someone bumping this (and more trolls). Even in playing as long as I have the complexity of the interface on this game is completely offputting. If I downloaded this game new tomorrow having never seen it I'd delete it in 2 days. Now, I have noted I have only the players data point and not the financial data point, but it's clear this game doesn't have the interest and stay up all night draw it once had. I don't fear the Germans or Singapore stealing everything I earned for a month in one nightly sweep with kind giggles on my wall. The game has advanced away from its magic. Is this a complaint thread? No. I don't think the game can be saved. It's not sour grapes. It's just an observation. Well, good luck. I'd be happy to hear if your cc is active.