Not true. Just ask around how many people have been strip farmed in under an hour. This was brought to our attention a month ago, and we have been watching ever since. During a strip farm, all your allies are bought away, so you can definitely steal from them (Hansel, while true that it's hard to steal if you have allies, strip farming was a quick way to buy all allies and make them broke without any way for them to retaliate). Additionally, while being farmed, even if the user was online, they cannot retaliate. Finally, people were being stripped farmed in under an hour by a small number of people. Not cool for the community (i.e. if you're any build but a spy build, you are at risk of losing everything while you sleep).
Case & point: Zaft, NA, & Chaos' attempted strip on me this morning. I recieved 2 tips about the strip coming my way. I sat back & waited for it to start & quietly bought new allies as the bought mine. It was suprisingly easy to defend the strip attack from over 25 attackers because the steals that got thru did no real damage. I ended up making some good money on the deal. Lol -- Zaft, NA, or Chaos didn't realize this untill I inadvertantly bought one of Orcster's allies alerting them to my active status. At this point, they had blown billions.
I like this change. Any chance that we could also have a leaderboard just for the people with the most steals? Pure spies would like that
Spy LBs have been shot down for the fact that spies are: spies. My batt is low or I'd make another long paragraph explaining that.
I hate cor and his stupid towers... Blah blah blah cor grow some balls and fight like a real man not just hide behind walls that, well I can tear down you just jealous your shell strat dont include spies...... Shut up cor!!!!!
Err, originally, shells were 1 spy 2 troops/mixed builds..what does that have to do with anything anyway? No spy LBs because they are sneaky and not public. It's like spy quests in that in sounds nice but defeats the purpose.
Ok to say that spies are sneaky and don't want accolade is just daft, everyone wants to be noticed and accredited with their goals... It's not like your putting up their victims names and laughing at them. As Hansel said, a warrior build on lb does not need to fear a spy now they can't be touched... So the lbers can sit in their ivory towers and slowly accumulate bigger allies making them more invincible. As for one spy taking one person on with 20 gems if that's what he wants to do let him devs your making money out of it either way. Spies add a quality to this game other wise it would have died a long time ago, if everyone was just grinding away to be a warrior and stay that way, woth the spy chucked in you can tweak a good build... However look at leaderboard no spies all of tremendous are pure muscle builds and a few towers, now look at the prices of tje lbers does anyone not on there think they are going to get to top 20 very quick? The idea that spies are sneaky means they should be able to bypass sentries at all levels of play but that's just not the case. Cor in response to something you said earlier, I would pay through the nose to get t2 spy buildings if I had to. Until then, spies are **** for wars, they are **** for targetting and they are **** for assassinating, you have made the most versatile fun class ( out of two classes), a redundant feature that's ****. Assassin.
Ok kaw_admin I just lost 10.7m a hit to a guy with 63k attack....you can't tell me you didn't Jack it up and I wasn't even half spies...
I think this is a good way to adjust it so that steal/strip is less common. To the people saying spies will be useless for war: you have to keep in mind that this change was made to go with the upcoming war system. I would presume that it will track the total spy steals and such for each side, and thus will allow spies to add to their war efforts. I dont know how exactly it will work, but I would give them a chance to get it out before you start freaking out that spies will become entirely useless. I
Had 3.6b out and was around 35k spies losing 10.7m a hit...I've been hit with 4b out in past and 108k spies and only lost 2m...
Ok Devs I don't mind tweaking the game a little for the good of the people BUT, if it's going to hinder gameplay and cause propaganda is it worth it. In my mind the more u make game dynamics Shittythe more youll lose players. Yes strip farming is wrong and yes Pure spies and Spy buillts does damage when it's a team thing. But it's also part of the game tgats why it's called KINGDOMS AT WAR!!!!! Strip farming in my mind is a good thing to put an ARROGANT, CoCKY, HATEFUL and Powerful person in His/her place. Most of us that has been in IG, Fox, Chaos, and Hollow knows how it feels to be strip farmed but then again it's part of the game. There's a Good guy and there's a Bad guy we all have wars that make or break a person. Yes when the person is strip farmed we all feel bad for the person but it also changes them too on being respectful and kind to other players. I don't think Pure spies should be nerfed or suffer the consequence on being effective players in the game. I think we should punish the cheaters, Hackers and Rude people that poison this great game. To me that's dishonorable and unjust. I have great friends who are spy builts and it's a shame u have to do that cause sone ppl can't take the heat. In my mind if ppl were aware of being stripped farm they should prepare for the unexpected buy spy towers and A LOT of Spy Def Pots!!!!! Be smart and don't be stupid is what I say and the old addage "Beyter safe than sorry". Sorry devs I think spies shouldn't get nerfed for there effectiveness I think we should improve other things than that. There I said my peace I hope I get an good an honest reply from it.
Yah it's getting boring with the new mechanism, I agree with shadowkhan ppl have their options of sacrificing plunder for spy towers if they are afraid of stripped. Now it's becomes defence towers are more important stealing is now quite insigficant. So I will support the changing back pls to add the spice back Into the game thanks
Thanx Orcster. Us guys that play this game a lot and been on it for a long time knows strategy and war and what it takes to prevent these kinds of things. Yes I have enemies and rival clans but I think a lot would agree with me on this. It doesn't make the game FUN if u change it this way. For a while now I think spy builts had the cold shoulder on game dynamics and I on the other hand do appreciate what u do for us attack builds I think the spy builts should have a fair share in upgrades also but also at the same time add either another upgrade to the spy towers or more better spy def. Remember Kaw is about strategy and for yhe ppl that don't know much of it either ask ur clanmates or look it up on forum. That's what I did when I was a nooblet. Its not hard to defend urself. Pls give spy builts the fair share they deserve don't nerf them for being effective they don't make that much money and it's harder to survive by needing them that way.
Its funny how when devs changes games everybody goes nuts. The fact that players could lose months worth of gold in hour was obscene. Something needed to be done. They did not outright ban stripping. They just made it more difficult. Which it should have been from the start. To strip someone of 500billion or trillion should take many hours and large amounts of players.
If only eh?... ..... ..... ..... Ok... To summerize: .... .... You all are requesting that the devs make it so the Leaderboards can get fat off alt farms as well as the big clans so they can stay above small clans and raise that threashold. You all are requesting that spys be able to strip players single handedly like they could in the past with crystals or 2-3 people can strip all but the biggest players. You all are requesting that developers give 100+bil to everyone who lost subs for guilds(I'm serious, this has as much a chance as the others) to strip other players since you all were not warned in advance. You all want a week's warning minimum for ANY and ALL mechanics change with SPECIFICS so you all can plan accordingly and ajust your builds early instead of later and lose time you could have spent on the optimal build right up to the update, like you all did now. You all want a spy leaderboard to compensate for all spies bruised ego and the overall leaderboard to be a attack leaderboard since that is how it is. You all want spy quests since permanent stealing from enourmous farms that sit at 0 gold isn't the same because you don't get crystals. You all want the War System 1.0 Update to get canceled or release withheld since this update was in preparation of it and is directly tied. You all want multi-tier spy buildings without any nerfs to spies to make it possible. ..... .... .... ....this is what I'm hearing. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't buy the change as being related only to the war system. If that's the case then the developers wouldn't have said this was a result of the monitoring of what they felt was abbusive stripping. As for the quests, multiple tiers and lower payouts why us that okay to exclude spy builds from but increase ability for attack builds to get stronger. I guess it's okay if an attack build does guests and then drops crystals to beat a spy out of money but if a spy does it then that is the most evil thing in the game. Is the title of this game Kingdoms at War or Kingdoms at Mild Aggression With No Hurt Feelings?