I don't mind doing eb's at the moment as I'm still growing, I didn't want to start waring until I HCBC, main reason is, i'v seen players that war a lot and they're still very small. But I really feel for the players that do war, the bonuses from items is huge, full items adds up to trillions in allies BFA too equal. Bonuses are now even bigger with Enchantments. Cork is right, they're pretty much been forced to EB now, if not they'll be left far far behind. The thing I find very annoying is the way the older item drop eb's have had their drop rate reduced, it's not due too people already having the item as I was in SwitchBlade for a few weeks and not one member had the item. Watching as 1 Blade drops out of 5 FOD is disheartening to say the least, that's five, eleven hour eb's. If you are item hunting, best leave old items and start on the new ones first, as the drop rate is higher. Another thing is the Aqua/Inferno, did we really need more EB drops to chase? Add to that the fact the item might revert back to normal, after spending god knows how long trying to get this new currency. Adding even more time that the osw player has to spend doing something they hate. Again if they don't do this they will find it very difficult going up against a stripped clean player with full items. Too the non big lb player BFA even in the 500bil to 3Trill has become obsolete now with items.