Os kimon no not because we complained we wanted to also be acknowledged for our way of fighting, seems to me that the lack of information at your end is causing you gripes, so please don't put your angst on those of us that have changed the game for the better. SIN
Troll there is logic however the new devs and mods don't really have all the info, lucky for them there's still a few dinosaurs still farming out there.
Would also like to say a thank you for taking you out of the darkness wouldnt go a miss either... There's a wealth of information that older kingdoms have, all you have to do is ask and it will be given... Snide comments kinda closes those doors though.
@diablo. Don't be too hard on her. I think she just venting. Anyway, this does point out a problem. Attack builds and spy builds are apples and oranges on a seesaw. Propping one up automatically puts the other down. Probably the best solution would be to have separate lb for the two builds. The sneakiness spy vs the strongest hitter. The biggest problem here is that there was no readily-available information about how spy stats affected the lb, and so lots of ppl wrongly thought they didn't. Remember that the ebs and pwars paid out very badly for hitter with very small spy builds so many either didn't use them or had only spy towers. The Dawnstar example is a great one showing a hitter who unfortunately ignored spy stats for a long time. The devs were lazy and neglect in informing us. I suspect the op would have acted differently if she knew the consequences of building spy temples but no SOS.
I'm not exactly convinced spy build should be given special treatment. Personally, if the overall lb is supposed to show total strength then it should show total strength. All the scouts in the world won't make you stronger.
Yes the correct way would be separate attack n spy lb. you will most likely never see a spy go number 1 on the lb. or even top 50. By separating them it would legitimize there existence and give them something to work for.
Yes a separation would make both sides happy. Spies judge by spy build ally spy stats and spy actions. Attack builds judged by attack build, and attack allies.
Lol... I been complaining for years... You think these lame duck devs ever would listen to there paying customers... Lol ... NOoooooo Especially when I ask someone 26 ranks ahead of me and he was ranked 1900 in allies and I'm ranked 205. Oh he had 25,000 more steals than me..I only had 60,000 steals Lol.. Tell me this Leaderboard isn't screwed or what?
In fact I complained a while back and they finally included wins a bigger factor! Before these lame duck devs were only really counting allies as the most factor in overall. Hence why before a noob could buy mass nobility and be in overall leaderboard in a matter of days. Then they finally changed it.
I don't want to belittle what spies do or hark on the devs, but you would think when it all comes down to it, truth and accuracy should win over everything else. When I hit madmaj I would like to know I'm actually hitting the 8 overall player, not some player that should be rank below me in the 200s. I don't care how he got the power or if he deserves it or not. I just want to know he actual power.
I notice no moderators comment on this thread. I guess they are just as surprised as the rest of us are.
Surely if you care about battles won then you care about assassinations/steals and scouts too ? all of which (maybe barring scouts) are ways of battling and harming your enemy. None logically will make a person "stronger", like buildings or allies, and its hypocritical to moan about about spy actions, in comparison to the equivalent, how will spies ever make it to lb if not ? I haven't checked but I'm assuming most of you moaning are attack build? My €2