some facts about unloading

Discussion in 'Strategy' started by 0IoI0o-_-WhiteTooth-_-o0lol0, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. OP is right. I was doing 1 hit only on the EB, asn, and checking payout. Good post. If you're into EBs, don't bother unloading more than a hb of spies.
     
  2. great! Now i'll stop wasting all my spys. Thx!!
     
  3. Cool story bro, changed my life, honestly
     
  4. Interesting read does anyone have the numbers (proof) helping verify the authors theory?
     
  5. No offense but your claim is rather illegitimate. This is what happens for attacks, not assassinates. If you look at the damage per hit from full spies to 0, you see that the fluctuation is varying around 10 points from the average, and while the average may decrease at low troops, this amount is trivial.
     
  6. My damage on attacks only varies 15 points from full to empty. So based on your logic I should be making similar amounts from first to last hit.
     
  7. Wulf's thread has stated very clearly that the payout is based on ur strength( in the sense troop lvl) not dmg. Dmg is roughly constant thought. Payout is, however, drastically different.

    No offence man, but this is kind of a common sense.
     
  8. Or do i like fish?
     
  9. Damage done on Asn has no relation to payout at the end of EB. Here's a couple of simple tests.

    1 asn only in Haunting, spies full. Payout = 22m

    1 asn only in Haunting, spies virtually empty. Payout = 3m
     
  10. This is so basic it's pointless. In pw days it was right to never unload but 2hit or whatever you could keep doing without missing to keep plunder higher. In war same is true if you looking to maximise gold n feel safe from attack. Simple to understand and you don't need a diagram which has no proof or research behind it to show it.

    Kaw formula is based on complex mathematics and your elementary work bears no resemblance to reality.

    You also missed some simple facts such as a hansel attacking gets similar gold from first to last hit. So it's not worth the extra effort of waiting for regen as opposed to full unload.

    Learn about algorithms and then start again 
     
  11. I was not sure if this was true, so i made a fresh account to test. test done with no allies on kingdom assault.

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    very slightly higher then expected results(from OPs chart) for low spy hit, most likely from the % of damage done to the EB being the same in both cases. Its still pretty accurate, I had no clue this post was really helpful for me.
     
  12. That's pretty good mav and the difference is obviously there. Gives you something to think about.
     
  13. What's interesting in mav's comparison is that the amount is proportional to the strength percentage.

    100% 13,500

    The 8.9 we can roughly say is 9% and nets 1,340 or roughly 9.something precent of the income at 100%

    I find that to be proof enough that the op's claims while not 100% accurate are pretty close to accurate.

    At least for assassinations on eb's
     
  14. Are you an economist op?
     
  15. I tested myself because I had to know for sure. Back to back Hauntings, only 3 actions in each, roughly same total damage.

    3 assass from full spies = 16 million
    3 assass after a 0 spy regen = <1 million

    The difference is large enough that the exact amounts aren't necessary to tell the story.

    Whatever shape you wanna use to draw the graph, attacking from full spies earns MUCH more gold than from empty. So the overall point sill holds. If you're only concerned about plunder, a full unload of spies isn't worth it, unless you know you won't be able to assass/steal within the next hour.
     
  16. :eek: where was I when this thread was created
     
  17. Dear God I beg of u please do my math homework
     
  18. This was a good post. Regardless of what the correlation is, or what shape your graph should be, there's clearly a difference. If you want to maximize your eb plunder (and if you have no life) just skim hits. (2 attacks, 3 assassinates and them regen and repeat)