Also the democrats did not push the keystone pipe line because their biggest supporter is Warren Buffet if you don't know who that is . Here's a lil bit about him he owns most of the railroads also geico and brookshire Hathaway So with that said he would loose money on the rail road because of the pipe line
[/quote]congrats on thinking that you just disproved what 99% of the world's scientists believe to be true with some basic elementary school [/quote] Al gore is not a scientist his band of marry men are not true scientist they are business scientist also I'm pretty sure that a lot of scientist around the world disagree with what the media is telling us
And the democrats are against the pipeline because of warren buffet? And there is all the proof needed to justify the name of the thread- silly republicans
These are probably the same scientists that think it's ok to dump rat poison in drinking water. And saying 99% is a straight up lie!
Volcano's cause most of the pollution? Please tell me more how smog was created by volcano's, water was polluted, and most of the trees that took away excess carbon was also killed by volcano's and stuff. Also tell me why Earth is farther away from the sun than usual and should be cooling but is warming. During the dinosaurs the Earth was closer. This is a natural Earth cycle. Earth is warming instead of cooling when htgat what should be happening. Explain to me how much smog and carbon volcanos produce instead of humans. Sorry if this disagrees with what you been told. I guess I may be just a stupid Democrat after all to some.
@a bunch of people Wow, just wow... People wonder why we don't get stuff done productively anymore, it's because were all just sitting and arguing. If your gonna talk about politics on a video game in the first place, at least try to understand peoples opinions instead of just screaming why your right and the others wrong. For all you know you could easily be arguing with some nine year old kid. In rl are you really going to take the time to argue with a nine year old? If your like most reasonable people, I think not. Look, I realize some of you guys I'm talking about aren't gonna take the time to read this or just don't care, but for Spragga's sake could you please at least try to understand the other side or comprimise! btw sorry for that wall of text
One example Kilauea show that the eruption discharges between 8,000 and 30,000 metric tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere each day.
Ian Plimer, the Australian mining geologist who wrote the climate sceptic bible Heaven and Earth last year. "The atmosphere contains only 0.001 per cent of all carbon at the surface of the Earth and far greater quantities are present in the lower crust and mantle of the Earth. Human additions of CO2 to the atmosphere must be taken into perspective. Over the past 250 years, humans have added just one part of CO2 in 10,000 to the atmosphere. One volcanic cough can do this in a day."
You are correct. Naturally 750 gigatons is produced each year by nature. All of it gets adsorbed back into oceans or land. But this leaves little room for extra assorbing. Humans produce 29 gigatons a year but only 40% is assorbed. This leaves 60%(17.4 gigatons) rest in the atmosphere. The co2 levels are the highest they have been in the last 15-20 million years. This is due because of humans. As far as I am aware of there hasn't been any massive volcano's erupting within the last few decades that isn't out of the ordinary. Its not just how much we make but how much extra the Earth can take.
He's wrong. "Do the Earth’s volcanoes emit more CO2 than human activities? Research findings indicate that the answer to this frequently asked question is a clear and unequivocal, “No.” Human activities, responsible for a projected 35 billion metric tons (gigatons) of CO2 emissions in 2010 (Friedlingstein et al., 2010), release an amount of CO2 that dwarfs the annual CO2 emissions of all the world’s degassing subaerial and submarine volcanoes (Gerlach, 2011). The published estimates of the global CO2 emission rate for all degassing subaerial (on land) and submarine volcanoes lie in a range from 0.13 gigaton to 0.44 gigaton per year" http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/climate.php
Ian Plimer had a massive conflict of interest. He was (and is) on the executive board of like seven mining companies, with vested interest in Australia's mining industry, which, at the time, was under threat by the emissions trading scheme.
If your case is based on Pilmer and volcanos, you don't have a case. "How climate change sceptic Ian Plimer dodges valid criticism On page 413 of the book he repeats the old canard that "Volcanoes produce more CO2 than the world's cars and industries combined". It was a claim that he famously made in a recent interview by Justin Webb on the BBC's Today programme. Webb did not challenge him, but I put it to Plimer that the website of the US Geological Survey (USGS) states: "Human activities release more than 130 times the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes." Plimer's response was that the USGS is only talking about terrestrial volcanoes and has not incorporated CO2 produced by undersea eruptions at mid-ocean ridges. "85% of the world's volcanoes we neither see nor measure," he said. "They leak out huge amounts of carbon dioxide... That does not come into the USGS figures nor does it come into the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's figures." If he is right, that is an astonishing omission and an oversight that would force a huge reassessment of climate science. But when I check with the USGS they are very explicit. According to volcanologist Dr Terrence Gerlach: I can confirm to you that the "130 times" figure on the USGS website is an estimate that includes all volcanoes – submarine as well as subaerial ... Geoscientists have two methods for estimating the CO2 output of the mid-oceanic ridges. There were estimates for the CO2 output of the mid-oceanic ridges before there were estimates for the global output of subaerial volcanoes. These are just three of the many criticisms that have been made about Heaven and Earth. Plimer dismissed them as "pathetic nit-picking" but if his book is influencing politicians and public opinion around the world then I think his arguments deserve close scrutiny. He likes to argue that his position on global warming is dismissed by mainstream scientists because they are part of a "fundamentalist religion" and a "mafia". In fact, his arguments are rejected because they are just plain wrong." http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... ian-plimer
k. short version. the earth has always released a certain amount of co2 into the atmosphere. it absorbs a certain amount into oceans and plant life. a lot of the plant life got buried and became coal. we burn that buried carbon daily. so humanity is releasing co2 into the atmosphere that would not otherwise be there. you don't think its a "lot"? it can be measured in gigatons. that's billions of tons.
@ Wordwaster I'm old enough to remember the acid rain and the ozone controversies. Science was right in both cases and the skeptics were wrong. When 97% of the world's scientists say we have a problem, common sense tells me I should listen. Common sense also tells me that if they're wrong, the worst that could happen is we spent money to clean up the air. But if they're right and we do nothing, we're in serious trouble. And since this is the only planet we have, common sense tells me it's a hell of a lot safer to err on the side of caution.