Sexuality

so someone predisposed to alcoholism that never takes a drink is still an alcoholic? it's the same thing people just make a bigger deal about it because we live in a *intimacy* crazed society

 

Find me the exact passage that says that. Then I'll believe you. I know you can't because I have tried and watched many others try to as well. Most attempt mark but it says pretty much nothing on that accord... Except than its ok for a man to have another younger boy as his fornication slave as long as the slave isn't penetrating him...

 

No, I see what you are trying to get at, but it is incorrect. You are comparing apples and oranges. The definitions are completely different.

Alcoholic is somebody who cannot control their drinking habit. Being an alcoholic is 100% based on your actions.

Homosexual is not. You can refrain your whole life from being physically with somebody of the same sex,but of you are attracted to them, then by definition you are still a homosexual.

 

ok here's a better one. drug babies. they are born with an addiction to whatever drugs their mom used and go through rehab as infants. they carry that same addiction all through life. does that mean they are always a methhead pot head crack head etc?

 

actually I can show you a few scriptures that clearly say homosexuality is against the Bible

 

Yes! You got it! If someone is something, then their actions don't change their natural disposition. That is the difference between being something, and acting on it.

Ask any alcoholic, simply because they avoid alcohol, they are not suddenly "cured" of being an alcoholic. Similarly, gay people do not suddenly become straight simply because they abstain from their natural inclination.

Now whether or not alcoholism is a natural predisposition like homosexuality, or created condition, is something I haven't read enough about.

 

No it doesn't. That's my point, and you are not getting it. An addiction is not compareable to what sort of person somebody is attracted too.

Alcoholic, crack head, meth head are all based on actions. If you have a pre-disposition addiction to crack because your mom smoked it, you are not a crack head because you have not smoked crack.

There is a definition for someone who smokes crack.

There is a different definition for someone who has a chemical addiction that they did not cause.

There is a different definition for someone that is attracted to people with the same genitals as themselves.

As I said, you simply cannot compare them.

 

ya realize you are working on the sabbath right (wink) so you support peeps stoning you to death cause its written there too (giggle)

 

actually homosexuality is an addiction based on a chemical condition they didn't create in those that were born for it. while others do choose to engage in certain acts with either gender.

 

the part of the Bible that talks about the Sabbath references rules known as the Mosaic law. that law was a national law for the israelites that blended with their religion. since Jesus sacrifice worshippers of the Christian God were no longer placed under that law. so no I don't support stoning of anyone

 

Bacon you are so wrong,and unfortunately if you just did some research on this topic before you jumped in, you would realize that.

Having a predisposition does not mean you are an alcoholic. You cannot be an alhololic if you have never drank alcohol.

Instead of arguing, why not try to educate yourself a little on the topic?

 

Why do we have more homosexuals in the last hundred years than we did in the centuries before it?
I see a new kind of sexual orientation or term every few days.

Safe to say that the environment has played a role in it, and that the feminization of men over the years is the product of the environment.

Look it up, the feminization of men over the ages. How media and so many other mass reaching items have changed to perpetrate a certain lifestyle.

I may be wrong, just putting it out there.

 

So much ignorance in this thread

 

Because homosexuals have always been prosecuted in history. They still do in some countries. Isis just threw that guy off a building for being homsexual not long ago. If people were getting thrown off buildings, would you be open about it?

 

Actually Bacon, that argument fails on both counts:

1) homosexuality is a predetermined condition, that cannot be changed by abstinence or self denial, and therefore, offensive comments against this group for their natural predisposition is bigotry similar to racism; and

2) even if it was an unchosen chemical condition (as you allege) someone was born with, offensive comments against this group for their natural predisposition is still bigotry, similar to racism.

 

I have done research very extensive research infact something that you haven't done. all I'm stating is that people have a choice they don't have to be homosexual or bi sexual or straight just because of their disposition. trying to tell someone they have to be gay because they like the same sex is just as wrong as telling someone they can't be gay because they like the same sex regardless of religious beliefs

 

Some interesting views for sure. I certainly think regardless of sexuality you should get mith for winning a LL war.

 

I never said offensive comments towards them was ever ok. however offensive comments towards straight people for not agreeing with their life CHOICES seems to be the popular thing