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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by IIIIxX-IW_RI0_IW-XxIIII, Dec 19, 2014.

  1. i believe in a jesus who rose down to earth to sin for humanity
     
  2. Rose down? Now that's an incredible feat.
     
  3. The birth of Jesus was "moved" to match the pagan holiday therefore it's a pagan holiday and also the Christmas as we know it as started in the 19th century.
     
  4. Check with the teacher first, your daughter could've warped his words 
     
  5. And you are entitled to that belief, as others are entitled to their own. No one should be told what to think.
     
  6. On such a breathless night as this
    Upon my brow the lightest kiss
    I walked alone
     
  7. The date of Christmas was changed in order to overshadow and replace a pagan holiday, not align with it. Furthermore, no matter how it is altered, perceived, or skewed in current day, "Christmas" is and always has been a Christian holiday. I have nothing wrong with not celebrating Christmas and still enjoying the holiday season, but that does not change what Christmas is. I don't celebrate hannukah because I'm not Jewish…they don't celebrate Christmas because they aren't Christian. Have your "holiday party" or "winter celebration" or whatever you want. Fantastic! but don't further confuse the situation by perpeuating the misuse of a religious celebration.
     
  8. Heck, for all we have screwed up the holiday we should call it Giving Day or Santa Day, or let's max out our credit cards and act like idiots day…I will continue to remember my savior's birth and you can do what you want with your end of year vacation days :)
     
  9. Just to prove a point

    1. Christmas tree
    Originally the tree that you plant in your living room came from the pagan tradition, 17th century german pagans brought greenery into the household to decorate during mid winter.

    2. Santa Claus
    Father Christmas came from the believe of spirits that traveled around the sky during midwinter (pagan believe). Later became a man dressed in green, riding reindeers on a slay across the sky, gifting presents. Until coca cola turned him red.
    (Shameful that a company can do this)

    3. Christmas lights Christmas feast
    The winter solstice is when the days become the shortest and the nights become the longest, pagans took up the tradition of having a feast and burning logs to bring light, heat and life giving called the Feast of Juul.
    (lighting and a big feast... Interesting)

    4. Gifts
    While gift-giving may seem tied to Christmas, it used to be that people looked forward to opening presents on New Year's Day. During the 1800s, later moved to Christmas Day.

    5. Early Christians
    The early Christians seen no reason to celebrate Jesus birth because the bible didn't state Jesus's birthday. (believed to be July or August) which was made to co-inside with the pagan holiday.

    Face it the you push the more I'll disprove that Christmas is a Christian holiday. Yes I can be a ass but it's just annoying to me when it's claimed to be something it isn't. I'm happy to have this holiday don't get me wrong, I see it has a family get together nothing more.

    But to sum up the point only thing Christian about this holiday is Jesus birth that never happened on this date (I'm thinking of celebrating my birthday 4 months early since everyone approves of it) it's just pagan traditions evolved over time with extra features added in along the way.
     
  10. Queen wrote a song called Jesus :D
     
  11. No use in arguing with those with the thinking of Woifie. Just not worth it.


    No offense Woifie, just speaking the truth 
     
  12. Woifie always wins  wanna know why?




    Because I'm WOIFIE
     
  13. I never said you won. Just said there is no point in arguing with you.

    Because I'd say you're wrong *pedo moon*
     
  14. If you don't argue with me then I win by default 
     
  15. Wolfie, i have not once argued with those points. I know them and mostly agree with you. What has become the traditions of Christmas in the modern day are quite a mix of both christian and pagan rituals. This, however, does not change my statement. Christmas in the truest sense, is the celebration of Jesus' birth. The rest of the things that people associate with the holiday are not in fact Christian…neither are they Christmas. If enough people call a St. Bernard a pony just because it can be ridden by small children…that doesn't make it a horse…it's still a dog at the end of the day. And CHRISTmas is a CHRISTian holiday because it was created by and for Christians to celebrate christ and politically to help ease the tensions whilst wiping out a pagan holiday at the same time. That doesn't make it not Christian.
     
  16. @OP Find out what teacher religiously influenced your daughter, any teacher or professor sharing their religious beliefs or anything that can influence your children is a violation of the law and can get that teacher fired.
     
  17. 1.Is Jesus "real or not" bad? No
    2.Are any if the said teachings of "jesus" bad? No
    3.is praying bad? No

    Basically your mad over what? Someone telling your child about something that is in no way bad? Allah was a rapist and a pedophile,if someone told your child to pray to Allah, then you should be offended. Maybe you don't like the fact that the teacher is conveying his Christian beliefs, but the beliefs of Christians are all pretty damn positive stuff full of positive reinforcement and wisdom. So teach your kid how you like and be thankful the teacher is preaching about Jesus and not some ass hole who doesn't give a damn about his students.
     

  18. Christmas aka "Christ-mass"

    Let me just shoot down all your inaccuracies with a quote from a very reputable source...

    "The middle of winter has long been a time of celebration around the world. Centuries before the arrival of the man called Jesus, early Europeans celebrated light and birth in the darkest days of winter. Many peoples rejoiced during the winter solstice, when the worst of the winter was behind them and they could look forward to longer days and extended hours of sunlight.

    In Scandinavia, the Norse celebrated Yule from December 21, the winter solstice, through January. In recognition of the return of the sun, fathers and sons would bring home large logs, which they would set on fire. The people would feast until the log burned out, which could take as many as 12 days. The Norse believed that each spark from the fire represented a new pig or calf that would be born during the coming year.

    The end of December was a perfect time for celebration in most areas of Europe. At that time of year, most cattle were slaughtered so they would not have to be fed during the winter. For many, it was the only time of year when they had a supply of fresh meat. In addition, most wine and beer made during the year was finally fermented and ready for drinking.

    In Germany, people honored the pagan god Oden during the mid-winter holiday. Germans were terrified of Oden, as they believed he made nocturnal flights through the sky to observe his people, and then decide who would prosper or perish. Because of his presence, many people chose to stay inside."

    - The history Channel
     
  19. My advice - let it go.

    No point getting mad. You did the right thing and told your daughter to make her own decision. Some people are very religious and openly share it, sadly. But I doubt this person will have a major impact on your daughters religious views
     
  20. It doesn't matter what Jesus's specific birthdate is because we celebrate it like it is, though I'd like to know, it isn't important.

    Answer to op: I think it's unacceptable, people shouldn't force religion upon people.