"We have the ability to enable bot logging on every player, checking the movements of his mouse/ketboard"...uhmmm.Ok, we'r "safe" on phones. But that statement means that if i'm p)aying on pc browser and on the same browser i'm typing confidential informations, ATA is spying me with its "bot logger" trying to find the botters? Sorry if many errors on typing but i'm on phone and it's hard to type without having the possibility to look what i type. Yaw, you'r developement on android is a bit behind, but that is another topic...
Lol justice. Just an FYI I refused that crap role years ago but thanks You're demanding proof of something you have no right to ask for. If you don't like it it's super easy to delete apps off your phone. But let's face it, you ain't going nowhere regardless of the outcome. So stop being a Dramabear and let the ole grizzles handle themselves. Actually I think you're falsely accusing ATA of falsely accusing poppa and momma for botting. Isn't that against ToU? Watch out for that ban hammer mate. Seems to be nailing hog hard
Please keep in mind that bot logging is only enabled during bot abuse investigation, so we do not have this data for every user at any given time. This is to prevent botters/hackers from spoofing this data since they cannot know when we decide to enable it on the account. Here is a small sample raw data for you Justice, although you may find it hard to interpret as the data is encoded. We'll do our best to explain. mochi/ 02/19/2013 21:50:42 126482 friends/ 02/19/2013 21:50:46 238572 friends/ 02/19/2013 21:50:46 275835 comments/ 02/19/2013 21:50:55 756263 profile/ 02/19/2013 21:50:55 549280 comments/ 02/19/2013 21:51:13 810492 user_profile/ 02/19/2013 21:51:13 103573 attack/ 02/19/2013 21:51:20 592847 attack/ 02/19/2013 21:51:27 592847 attack/ 02/19/2013 21:51:33 592847 attack/ 02/19/2013 21:51:40 592847 UI variation change (variant 56) mochi/ 02/19/2013 21:50:42 126482 friends/ 02/19/2013 21:50:46 238572 friends/ 02/19/2013 21:50:46 275835 comments/ 02/19/2013 21:50:55 756263 profile/ 02/19/2013 21:50:55 549280 comments/ 02/19/2013 21:51:13 810492 user_profile/ 02/19/2013 21:51:13 103573 attack/ 02/19/2013 21:51:20 592847 attack/ 02/19/2013 21:51:27 592847 attack/ 02/19/2013 21:51:33 592847 attack/ 02/19/2013 21:51:40 592847 To understand this, the first piece of data is a click registered and action for the click. Second parameter is time. Third parameter is co-ordinate information. UI variation 56 indicates a UI variant that eliminates viewable UI elements for certain actions the user is performing, so unless they know exactly where to click, it is impossible to hit the button that's hidden. Note the two examples provided. The EXACT same co-ordinate actions are occurring in both incidents, even after we have hidden UI elements. The clicks are occurring on the exact same pixel, which is impossible. Like we said, it's easy to see visually once we replay the logs, as we can see mouse movement clicking ghost elements in the same patterns.
@gilga I believe the bot trackers face solely on UI interaction.Typing your documents should be fine.
@kaw_admin: Why wouldnt u provide the example of raw data in your last post earlier? Like on a warning thread or something? Why would u use momma and poppabear as ur examples? Youve set a huge set of events in motion and disgusted many, many players for disclosing their names which personally I have never seen names disclosed as examples to deter illegal activity in forums. Its also quite unprofessional. People will get mad. Ratings will be affected. Disgust
1-0? I got the proof I wanted, wasted KaW_Admins time, pissed off a few people, all while doing my homework, Happy KaWing admin. Don't get mad and ban me. :lol:
Kaw_admin, It's pretty obvious these are humans performing perfect click action with pixel-level accuracy. How dare you accuse poppabear of botting?! I will bet my first and second unborn child that its untrue! Poppabear is a perfect PC button clicker!
Since we can enable bot tracking at any time, and the format is not known nor is the time in which we enable this logging, catching other forms of botting that are not UI based is easy as well, since we can simply enable bot tracking on the game, and games that do not respond with the correct information are easily identified as non-ATA programs.
You get what you ask for. No data? The admin is wrong and false and asdf we're all broken up about it. Incriminating data? Clearly, it's still the admin's fault and they should have warned us because there definitely aren't threads or anything saying that they monitor activity in this manner. You could even ask forums. It's a pretty decently known fact that the devs track people's clicks. It's been brought up several times after bans. I have nothing to say about these bans in particular.
Notice the people standing against this are related to hog via apoc. Several games that have listed cheaters in their public forums. It's a great way to ward off other cheaters. I do love how much of an issue you cats make about this "outing" yet in the past when names of cheaters have been posted in forums it was never a concern. Jeez this ame is getting pussified
Lol loving this badwagon of stupidity I asked for proof I got proof Apparently I lost? Yep okay. Oh and iProph that's a bypass.
This is disgusting. U have lost all respect we had for u admins. To punish people for botting is one thing , but to publically post their names in ur thread ??!! How low can that be? And just to post these two names out of all in ur thread ?? This is unbelievable. U do know a big part of kaw community bot , WHY ONLY POST THESE TWO NAMES!???? This is a big shame . Bravo kaw admins BRAVO!!
I'm guessing all participants in the ZAFT Apoc war is gonna be checked ... Sleep Deprivation > Banned hahaha No respect for botters, but Poppa
Missed your post before, but how does demanding proof have any relation to accusing ATA of falsely accusing Momma and Poppa? Lol