HTE destroyed clan loyalty? That's ********... Some owners just don't know how to run a clan and keep loyal members close. Most of LB clans run at best 2-3 HTE every day. Tho they don't have a problem to keep their loyal members close.
In Top20 strongest clans LB there's 5 clans running b2b HTE. The other 15 clans have no problem to keep their members without HTE. Not even during a promo.
Fool lol. Hit secret service, no drama, retribution, all the other big eb clans hard enough and see how many stay. Hell, i have accounts spread throughout the top clans, i ain't a perm. It's all guests
That can happen to any clan if you hit hard enough. Even with "war mongers", "old school" and other bullshits clans. Its about players play style or war aptitudes. Not the subject here. Your thread is about an epic battle.
We know Val you have no loyalty to anyone. Not many likes a coward, chicken, runner and a left nut lover. So please enough with your talk with useless big ass accounts
Recruit, groom your members so you can do top tiers epic battles and HTE won't be needed. If one can't pass The Haunting maybe chose to do something else instead running a clan. I for one I'm happy with Scrag epic battles. If you are active enough the gold you make in TS and AFF is same as the gold you make in HTE (without item stages). I go to b2b HTE clans only when I know that I can't be very active for few days so I can just unload every hour. When I'm active I'm more than happy in The Sweet Spot.
A coward fights more than you. What's point you having a acc like yours, since you only hit hansels from pin anyways, fairy.
Why is it not a surprise vlad that you instantly refer to lb clans. Not all of kaw is lb. and grooming members. Ok enough said about your leadership there then. Not once did you mention the community, or the exclusions. Make a system where everyone can thrive and compete, where everyone can gain and you will encourage more people to spend. We already have disparity in nobs for gold and xtals and seals producing different revenue for different builds when the cash paid is the same. What's that other game at number one that sells things in even quantity no matter player size ? Yep I'll go to the supermarket and buy a tin of beans. You are double my size so they sell you two for the same price. Is that how real commerce works? Want more pay more. In kaw their is complete disparity across the board. And it is time that the devs looked at this topic. Which I am very glad they are. With event proposals made for future they can include their entire player base on an even level. That's what customers want and the community needs.
I make about 12b an hour doing scragg ebs. About 16b for hte so I don't care. It's not about that. Hte effects osw in a way you wouldn't know.
Loyalty to clans have nothing to do with HTE. HTE just another means of growing. HTE not a tool to keep members. Loyalty is build among friends and build new friends. This have to do with all clan members talking to each other. Knowing more about clan mates and talk. Loyalty is build not bribes. Many on this game have no loyalty to clans because there is players like Val that only care how to sucks on HTE clan by using tough talk no action. He also love to talk how many big and useless his accounts which never have no loyalty or risk them to protect or help friends. Anyone think HTE ruin loyalty I can assure you that's not true. It's dumb to think so because HTE don't create friendship. Players create friendship toward each other. You can feed Val HTE 24/7 for the whole year he will never risk his account for you or care how much you spend on this game to keep him. He is just one of those ppl that only care for himself. You want to create loyalty then you need to talk to your members on anything. I do understand growing is part of the game. This is a game to have fun. You need true friends around you to enjoy the game. Grow with friends even if you grow half as slow as those big spender. Most of them don't last on this game anyway. When their spending start to affect their pocket. They slowly fade away on the game. They start to get embarrassed can't keep up with their imaginary friends they compete with. Throughout the years I see few players I consider a friend and give them advice to take is easy on spending. They don't listen and spend more. They go twice my size and all of a sudden drop from nowhere without saying goodbye. This type of players sadden me. They think they can outgrow the game. Game will keep updating and no one will ever be finish building.
Oh yea Val keep on your imaginary OSW where a girl keep handing your assVal you can have 1000's of ABC account they still useless. It's not the account that make the different. It's the user who control with balls that make a different. Since you have no balls. Safe to say you suck
LooolI got half way through that brick wall and gave up. Stop pullin stuff out ya ass MuStard brother. Friends this friends that, play the game how you want to play and enjoy it. Not everyone takes the game as serious as you mustard. You don't got balls musang, your a fairy tryna act an OSW vet and you know it lol.
That's right Val play the way you play and post a thread about loyalty which you don't have any. You are like a snake oil salesman. Sad thing that you think taking advantage on anyone is normal to play. I guess it's come from your household or your culture.
Uhhh hey erryone. Ma names val. I like to mak money. N I like to make people DTW. And players like musang can't stop me. Cuz I just made him DTW. Fanks fo your time erry-one.
I didn't realized you have feelings. Sorry if I hurt your feelings snake oil salesman. I say how I see it and you are one of the best snake oil salesman I noticed on this game.
Chaos I didn't claimed that HTE don't affect the community. I was discussing only "HTE destroyed clan loyalty". And only from my point of view and my style of play. I'm not willing to burn 24xtals/day on an epic battle. So for me doing Scrag ebs or b2b HTE doesn't make much difference. And I do agree with you that HTE do create a large disparity between players like me and players who hate their money and throw them in KaW. Do I care? NO! But again,that's just me. The only disparity that affects me is during promos. In 24hours i get same reward as in half an hour HTE. I think this should be tweaked a bit. Other than that I have no problem if HTE will stay.
This is a chat app with the ability to attack others and epics. Play with friends and you might actually enjoy the game.
I do agree that HTE affect OSW but that's not main it's a bad thing across the board. HTE have positive effect on small clans willing to war indefinitely. They can still grow and build funds while in war. Pre HTE this is not possible that's why many don't like OSW in the past and they quit the game. Old thinking might be admirable but they don't tell the whole truth. Now with good size of numbers can fight a whole network of family as long they have tight band and loyalty to each other. This only can be achieve with HTE. No matter how we think HTE is bad. HTE give everyone a little chance of fighting back and growing those love to bully on this game.
I think there are two separate issues at hand here. The concept of the HTE clan, and the practice of HTE always being the best option for event gathering. One of these has a simple solution, the other does not. To solve the event gathering issue, don't eliminate the four drops. Just restrict them to the seal user. This will force members looking to farm hte's for awards to spread out more during events in order to drop more often (helping all clans), or at the least it levels the playing field for nonpay players. HTE should be a cash only eb, devs using it as the preferred farming eb is underhanded at best especially when no other eb will drop all four (or two even) pieces necessary to complete them. Basically saying sorry thnx for playing to the rest of the community, when in reality they have had to work MUCH harder to attain what they have managed. As for what to do about HTE clans and the effect they have had on the community... I honestly couldn't come up with anything that wouldn't significantly alter ata's bottom line. There are two types that play kaw: spenders and nonspenders - Prior to HTE spenders and non's coexisted fairly well, but HTE finally tipped the board. Spenders would grumble when they would blitz an eb in order to prevent the clan from failing and non's wouldn't. But Xstals don't cost $6 a pop.. Now they're supposed to just smile and provide x3 plunder for them without (hardly) ever seeing any reciprocation, and NOT feel a little resentment? Why would you, as a spender, not want to be in a clan where more than a handful of members visit the oracle? And yes, I know that will get flack from some for seeming to show a lack of loyalty or selfishness for those comments. But this is simply the fastest way to grow, and in war it's kill or be killed. If staying on the growth curve is/was important to you, you need to be in a clan that runs hte's. If you are the only sealer there, then it simply becomes financially burdening to keep up with the Jones's. All I know for certain is it's not an easy fix. Dev's opened Pandora's box and somehow didn't see this coming.. and I have no clue why they didn't - if there's been one constant in this game since I started, it's that the kawmunity will almost always pick the most profitable option available, and exploit the crap out of it Interesting topic that I'm glad they have finally decided to at least acknowledge hope some of this can help