Took too long for Kelly, know why did The state take so long.. That is why some murderers research The state Law , and Then Later writes books.. Still in jail But with money! Second, This agencies convincing women to abort, can they sleep well at night? Taking The Life of a human being that is in The womb, Also talking on how to get babys organs in good to sell baby parts to make creams and who else what other things, i am not against stem Cell research , But getting them this way seems very ilegal.
I adopted a little girl a few years back. The wait was 3 years, and I was told by my agency that I beat the odds by several years , so yea, I know a little bit about adoption. Are you Canadian? How many kids have you adopted? What has your extensive research and personal experience taught you? Please share your extensive adoption knowledge with forums, since you seem to doubt me. I'd love to hear what you've found out.
A dog bites a man in a town with an ordinance that requires the dog to be destroyed. Imagine that dog being confined in a cage for 5 or more years before execution. A dog is pregnant with a litter of puppies from another breed. Imagine that the owner has the entire litter aborted because it is too costly to feed and vaccinate the litter. Imagine if the litter has 2 runts that won't nurse from the mother. The owner is too busy and time consumed to feed the runts by hand, so the owner has the runts killed. Im not surprised at being the odd man out at defending life. We live in a culture where dogs are treated with more dignity than our helpless, oppressed, weak babies and no one cares that prisoners are human too. Many great literary works have been penned over the centuries from persons sitting on death row. Including letters of the New Testament.
I was simply pointing out the fallacy in your statement. You declared the Middle East was peaceful for a reasonable amount of time before post WWII. The Ottoman Empire was not only involved in WWI shortly before, they also committed genocide and racial oppression of many under their rule often. There is a reason the Asyrians, Armenians and Arabs we're utilized to help fight off the Ottoman Empire as being identified as a weak link in the Axis is WWI. Your statement is more applicable to your point. If you look back far enough you can find peace in the Middle East. For the better part of almost two centuries (every living generation and their former generations) most of them have known war and/or some form of strife.
I don't doubt your experience. I'm just surprised that it takes so long. The Mexicans here reproduce so quickly, they can't give their kids away fast enough. We have the opposite problem here in the US
How is that a fallacy? The person I was responding to said people living there are used to war because they've been at war. For most of the people currently living in the Middle East, war is new. Most of them have never experienced war. So, to suppose that a child in a newly warring country ought to expect to be killed by a missile is asinine. Furthermore, even if they HAD been at war for most of the child's parents' lives, how could one possibly believe that such a thought could even exist in a child's mind? A teen - sure, but a small child of only a few years cannot grasp the concept of a missile, let alone how it's delivered or what death is.
Humanity and defending human life at all costs don't go hand in hand. Define humanity. Has there ever been a point in time where there has been no war, violence, assault and taking from others? No. Humanity is unfortunately not all about compassion and protecting life, humans are violent, were territorial, predators. That's what we are. If you take everything away from us what are we? Hunters. Having said that, I don't believe in abortion, like said above, every pregnancy is a gift, if you don't want that child then there are parents that can't have children that do want that child. Unfortunately as we found out recently me and my wife can't adopt, due to her mental illnesses unpredictability were not allowed, luckily for us we have 3 of our own children. On the subject of the Middle East, it's important to remember that European interest in the area has been for around 2200 years. So yes, we are to blame for a lot of the lack of growth, war etc in the Middle East. Unfortunately due to the type of war we are now fighting and the concealment tactics used by our enemy, there is going to be civilian casualties, however, personally for me it ultimately boils down to - I'd rather it was someone else's kid in danger than my own.
Cheese in the last 50 yrs there have been a lot of armed conflicts in the Middle East. 1948 Arab Israeli conflict 1948 Alwaziri coup ". Al wathbah uprising 1953 Egyptian revolution 1953 Iranian coup d'état 1954-60 jebel Akhdah war 1955-63 Cypriot violence 1956-60 Yemeni-Adenese clan violence 1958 Lebanon crisis 1958 Iraqi revolution 1959 Mosul uprising 1962-70 North Yemen civil war 1962-75 Dhofar rebellion 1963 white revolution 1963 ba'athist Iraqi coup 1963 8th march Syrian revolution 1963-67 Aden emergency 1963 November Iraqi coup 1964 Hama riot 1966 neo-ba'athist coup in Syria 1970-71 Jordanian-Palestinian civil war 1974 Turkish invasion of Cyprus 1975-1990 Lebanese civil war 1977-79 political violence in turkey 1976-82 Islamic uprising in Syria 1979 Iranian revolution 1979-83 Eastern Saudi provincial unrest 1979 grand mosque seizure 1980 Turkish coup 1980-88 Iran Iraq war 1984-2013 turkey-Pkk insurgency 1986 South Yemen civil war 1986 Egyptian conscription riots 1986 Damascus bombing 1987 Mecca massacre 1987-96 ano executions 1990-91 gulf War 1991 Iraqi uprisings 1992-2000 Muslim brotherhood terror campaign 1994 civil war in Yemen 1995- Islamic insurgency in Saudi 1998 operation desert fox 1999 Shia uprising in Iraq 2003-11 Iraqi war 2004 qamishli massacre 2004-2014 Shia insurgency in Yemen 2004- Iran PJAK conflict 2006- Hamas fatah conflict 2007 nahr al-bared fighting 2009-15 South Yemeni insurgency 2010-15 Yemeni AlQaeda insurgency 2011 Egyptian crisis 2011 Bahraini uprisings 2011 Yemeni crisis 2011 Syrian civil war 2011 Sinai insurgency 2011 Syrian civil war spillover into Lebanon That's almost every country in the region involved in a war
Unrest? Seizure? That's basically a mass shooting. Does that mean that the US is also considered a war torn country?
You made an incorrect statement asserting the violence in the Middle East started in modern era with the creation of Israel. I told you how you were factually wrong. All the other stuff youre saying is off topic to what I was pointing out. That being said to acknowledge your off topic averting of being wrong. Do you seriously think the parents keep the kids completely blind to the society around them? Police states to executions to refugees almost constantly moving from one place to another to radical people to avoid. Its been commonplace there for a long time. Revolutions, military coups, wars, religious extremism. I'm not saying it's 100% everywhere in the Middle East but to suggest the kids over there are completely kept in the dark is an awfully presumptuous statement and an incorrect one as a blanket statement. From one combat vet to another, I know you hated the war but stop trying to put all the blame on us. No ones saying they don't want peace over there. No ones saying they hunger for war and / or only know that. At least I'm not, I'm just saying after over a century of almost consistent violence combined with how almost ALL of the Middle Eastern countries were created (most arbitrarily post WWI) combined with unrelegated corruption through OPEC and the randomly appointed leaders who got rich at the discovery of oil abundance and the technological advancements over the past centuries there's a ton of factors contributing to the region being unstable. Did America help out? Absolutely not. Neither did the Russians, British, French or most other people for that matter. Most more advanced countries tried taking advantage of all those new countries because of the oil.
Where did I say that? I'll get to the rest of your post soon, but I'm confused about what makes you think I asserted this.
Please... I'm not the type to pull that crap. Thanks, KC. If that's the bit that DMC's talking about, then that's a miscommunication. Perhaps I should have been more specific about what I meant by the Middle East being largely at peace till the mid-60s. I should have said "in a period of peace." I shouldn't have assumed that it would be understood that regions go through war in spurts and that I wouldn't need to be that specific. So, I wasn't trying to say that the Middle East had never experienced war prior to the mid-60s. I was just saying that most of the Middle East happened to be at peace during that time and that following the invasion of Palestine, much more war came to the region than has historically been present. At least, that's been my perception. I could be wrong and would love to hear more information proving me wrong.
I personally do not support the death penalty, but not necessarily for the same reasons as most others. My objection to it is, is it a deterrent? Or is it only a punishment? Soley as a punishment, then i dont object. But as a deterrent, i do not support it. Its supposed to mainly function as a deterrent motivated by an extreme consequence, Death. But how do you quantify if this method is effective? Has the murder rate significantly lowered in communities that have adopted executions? From my experience(parents live in different states with different laws on executions) the people who i grew up with that are on death row didnt seem anymore deterred from committing murder than those that i grew up with that are serving life instead. My point is, if the death penalty's main purpose is to deter people from committing such crimes it isnt working. Thats my personal opinion and reasoning against it. I agree, and if thats the punishment that state enforces then it is understandable.