I'll keep this short and simple, and I apologize now for the lack of fancy text etc, I'm just not the type so let's move on and have a good talk. I was gone from KaW for a good few years, life had taken it's toll and I couldn't afford the luxury of free time anymore. Now things have changed and I have returned with a vengeance. I placed 3rd in the last PvP Event with this outdated and ancient Maximum Turtle build, so I was curious to hear what ranks everyone else got with their builds. There are a lot of new factors with Furnishings & Rewards having made a debut since I was here last, but I'm mainly interested in Build Types, their effectiveness, and how you all make yours work for you. To explain my build a bit, I do indeed get close to no plunder from attacks and steals, but that works in my favor to keep my enemy open indefinitely after I buy a cheap ally off of them. I grow by farming the Silver Bar milestone rewards in PvP. Im so Tank Heavy that once I steal a Paladins Blade I can fall asleep and wake up to still having it. I do not need to Crystal. At most I activate Mithril Spells due to an excess of Mithril. This build follows Pure Spy Law, so i can not be Stolen from if I have no gold out. In War I mainly play a Support role since my income is laughable, but played effectively and dedicatedly I'm the stuff from nightmares. And that just about wraps up the main points of my Maximum Turtle, now then, I look forward to hearing from the few dedicated PvPers we have left, those that never forgot what this game was truly about from Day 1.