Plagiarism

I agree completely and even worse a kid on my class straight As and all a teacher looked at his past work found he was doing plagiarism and was expelled from the school and school districts in the west

 

Belle, I got through about two paragraphs and determined you have a personality disorder. I don't have a masters in psychiatry but this is my diagnosis. You are deluded. You are not protecting children. You are playing a game.

 

Belle, is your novel going to take place in the 17th century? Plymouth colony? Lol.

You might want to ask your therapist if having an over active sense of justice is good for your blood pressure.

 

Mon Feb 13 2012: Temp sticky for emphasis

10 months later and it's still stickied, not quite temp.

 

^Everything is temporary, seeing as nothing will last forever.... This "temporary" will probably just last until the world ends

 

bell im srry i love ya as a mod but plz dont talk about real world things to these ppl :mrgreen:

 

I read this and thought that what you saying made a lot of sense and I completely agree with you on this matter. People who plagiarise the work of others should be found out.

 

Nice!

 

Well said

 

I know I'm bumping an old topic, but I did just want to point out a few things, since there's a lot of misinformation going around.

1. Plagiarism is not illegal.

It can get you kicked out of school. And sometimes plagiarism can be copyright infringement which is against the law, but really only in cases where someone took your idea and very obviously passed it off as his/her own and made money off of it would you be then entitled to compensation. Otherwise, no: Plagiarism is not illegal. If you really are all in school, I suppose I forgive you because everyone talks about it so much sometimes it can seem like it's illegal...but it's not.

2. Creative writing is not academic writing.

Obviously creative writing can be for an academic class, but I bring this up because most "citations" for creative writing--short stories, fanfiction, poetry, novels, etc.--are silly. Belle in her OP is more than within her right to "cite" somebody when she says something about poets being "makers" but a) she doesn't need to because that's not especially specific language attributable only to her source and b) what she wrote is not really a citation anyway, it's a footnote or an endnote. Again, if she wants to, that's fine, but that doesn't mean anyone else would have to.

Furthermore, I point out that creative is not academic because citations are used for academic writing: theses, academic essays, etc. No one cites things in creative writing. Because when you reference a work, sometimes even going so far as to lift close to full sentences, it's mainly for the purpose of allusion. Which is a thing. Creative writers do it. All the time. I could give examples ("cite" the I mean ).

3. Sure, plagiarism is bad.

I agree. But does that mean you won't put some of your work up? Or what, you're not going to put your good work up--only your bad? So this board is only filled with your crappy work because you're worried someone will plagiarize your other stuff?

If you aren't going to put out a piece of writing just because you're worried someone's going to use it in one of their classes, that's your own thing. Personally, I find that kind of silly also. If they use it for their class, that's their own thing. If they steal it and sell it, then maybe they'll get caught. But really if someone's copying/pasting a work from a KaW forum page straight into the email inbox of the New Yorker and it sells, well I think a)you probably will have more ideas and b) you're an idiot for not just selling it yourself.

Anyway, as someone who works in the industry, it's always good to see the creative juices flowing. Most will never make it, but every try only makes you better. That's true for everyone.

TL;DR You're all wrong. No troll.

 

1. Plagiarism is not illegal.

It can get you kicked out of school. And sometimes plagiarism can be copyright infringement which is against the law, but really only in cases where someone took your idea and very obviously passed it off as his/her own and made money off of it would you be then entitled to compensation. Otherwise, no: Plagiarism is not illegal. If you really are all in school, I suppose I forgive you because everyone talks about it so much sometimes it can seem like it's illegal...but it's not.

2. Creative writing is not academic writing.

Obviously creative writing can be for an academic class, but I bring this up because most "citations" for creative writing--short stories, fanfiction, poetry, novels, etc.--are silly. Belle in her OP is more than within her right to "cite" somebody when she says something about poets being "makers" but a) she doesn't need to because that's not especially specific language attributable only to her source and b) what she wrote is not really a citation anyway, it's a footnote or an endnote. Again, if she wants to, that's fine, but that doesn't mean anyone else would have to.

Furthermore, I point out that creative is not academic because citations are used for academic writing: theses, academic essays, etc. No one cites things in creative writing. Because when you reference a work, sometimes even going so far as to lift close to full sentences, it's mainly for the purpose of allusion. Which is a thing. Creative writers do it. All the time. I could give examples ("cite" the I mean ).

3. Sure, plagiarism is bad.

I agree. But does that mean you won't put some of your work up? Or what, you're not going to put your good work up--only your bad? So this board is only filled with your crappy work because you're worried someone will plagiarize your other stuff?

If you aren't going to put out a piece of writing just because you're worried someone's going to use it in one of their classes, that's your own thing. Personally, I find that kind of silly also. If they use it for their class, that's their own thing. If they steal it and sell it, then maybe they'll get caught. But really if someone's copying/pasting a work from a KaW forum page straight into the email inbox of the New Yorker and it sells, well I think a)you probably will have more ideas and b) you're an idiot for not just selling it yourself.

Anyway, as someone who works in the industry, it's always good to see the creative juices flowing. Most will never make it, but every try only makes you better. That's true for everyone.

TL;DR You're all wrong. No troll. Plus I wrote this.

 

Theft is against the law and when you plagiarism you are stealing, thusly it is.

 

is illegal*.

 

Explain the ownership of words one more time.

 

@StrictlyProfessional: HAHAHAHA That was actually really funny. :lol: :lol: :lol:

@ Other guy: Can I, for a moment, impress upon you the value of outside research? Like just searching the Internet for things and clicking on reputable sources?

Plagiarism is not a legal matter, it is an ethical matter. It is not the same thing as copyright infringement. For the love of God.

There is such a thing as Fair Use.
There is such a thing as the Public Domain.

Furthermore, plagiarism isn't just copying/pasting, it might also entail paraphrasing without proper citation.

Furthermore, citation isn't even a protection against all forms of plagiarism. If you put the entirety of Harry Potter in quotes and then cited JK Rowling at the bottom and sold it, you would not be protected. Obviously. Plagiarism /= copyright infringement.

 

There is, however, intellectual property.

 

Studies and research, thats a given. If a college can claim ownership over the information, then it has more of a tangible value somewhat.

 

BUMP

 

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Good to know