[NEW ITEMS] - Dragon's Breath, Smog Screen

Discussion in 'Past Announcements' started by kaw_admin, Jun 10, 2014.

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  1. Nice pots love it
     
  2. Im sorry for saying but noticed that the battle lists been killed with these items.... so we must to play wc roulette here by? Only asking...
     
  3. Easy, just don't buy new pots. I am not buying
     
  4. No pots dropping from ss and summoner?
     
  5. Now it costs like 120 mil to attack someone .... I make that when I hit Lb.... Good job devs
     
  6. Standard potion minimum requirement for osw is 10,000 of each potion.

    With the newly added potions:
    50,000,000 att
    50,000,000 spy
    9,000,000 att def
    10,715,00 spy def

    That equals to:
    119,716,000

    Times that by 10k
    And this investment cost OSW clan members:

    1,197,150,000,000
    Gold to reach 10k pots with just 4 potions.

    Below is old cost of combined pots then the new cost:

    Attack
    69,940,000
    Now
    119,940,000

    Attack Defense
    21,985,000
    Now
    30,985,000

    Spy
    76,635,000
    Now
    126,635,000

    Spy Defense
    23,908,750
    Now
    34,623,759

    Total
    192,468,750
    Now
    312,183,750

    So now to buy 1 of each potion it will cost 312,183,759

    To get 10k of each pot it will cost:
    3,121,837,500,000

    Cost effects towards pvp

    A successful hit that makes the enemy spend defensive posts will cost your target 30,985,000 per attack and 34,623,759 pet assassination / steal.

    PvP and the effects that it brings:

    Scouts:

    To the Scouter using full post the person who is scouting is losing 126,635,000 per hit with each scout

    The enemy is losing 0 per scout because scouts do not cost defensive pots.

    Both are losing potential gold that could be made in ebs, but the attacker always waste more troops than the defender.

    This make scouting a costlier action thus makes pinning targets with SDT and SDE more costly to pin.

    Assassination:

    The assassin will lose 126,635,000 gold using full pots to hit their enemy.

    It will cost their target 34,623,759 gold to defend

    The attacker also loses potential gold that could be made from ebs via spies

    The target also loses potential gold that could be used from spies and troops

    This makes bringing down both of your enemies bars in osw/pvp more costly as well as makes getting hit with assassins more costly to the defender.

    Though with the 50mil added cost compared to the 10.175m loss to the defender, it makes assassinating a target a bit less worth it.

    Steal:

    On steals it will cost you 126,635,000 minus gold made per each successful action.

    Now, I have never personally made 126 mil on a steal, eb or pvp.

    So taking this to Battle List hitting a target of equal stats using full pots.

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    22,033,974 gold made on a defender with 10 pots and equal cs

    126,635,000 - 22,033,974 =104,601,026

    So I lose 104,601,026 on my target now instead of 54,601,026. If he was using full pots he would lose 34,623,759 plus a percentage of his gold left out.

    Now I go to WC and decide to test my steal on a 15 mcs account with small spy stats.

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    So I made 30,898,001 on an account significantly bigger than me but spent 126,635,000 to do so. That is a 95,736,999 lost now where as it would be a 45,736,999 loss before the new potion.

    In essence, this new pot now DOUBLES the cost to steal from some your targets if not more!

    I know to not use all of my pots when performing actions, but these are examples of when these new pots will be put into actions with full pot assaults.


    Attack:

    On attacks it will cost you 119,940,000 minus gold made from the action.

    Now I have on my other account made over 120mil per hit on HTE, I have also made up to 80 mil per hit farming per spies much larger with that account. With an adverse between 40 mil to 60 mil

    Still 88,000,000 - 119,940,000 =
    31,940,000 in loses. Before this new potion it was actually possible to make a plus with full pots when you caught a spy with gold out.

    And it was honestly a light lost with average hits, that is no longer the case.

    In Closing:

    So instead of posting my No Support for these new potions, I posted why I do not support it.

    Unless PvP gets an upgrade in gold made per hit to match the inflation, I don't support these new potions.

    ~ 3
     
  7. Awe let me cry about it
     
  8. The timing of the pot release was terrible , during war , messing up tactics , then release the counterpart def pot after war finishes UNBELIEVABLE . Can I have my crystal back ? Let's not mention the increased cost in extra adt your entire mid build cross section will need , rebuilding yet again , extra pot cost, whilst working towards getting BC ( when lets be honest the only way to get BC is to PAY for certain EB's that drop the gold you need) and losing plunder due to extra adt needed.....

    Ps , your iWars might have saved you except you are that crazy you put 4 pure spy in one side and 4 hansels regularly on opposite sides instead of 2 each lol ... The way you screw your players over gets more tedious and insulting by the day. You are either drunk 24/7 or just don't give a damn . Honestly I feel your trying to wind this game up so you can turn off the servers and skip off into the sunset with Meego loving S.m.a.s.h heads . Farcical at best , you really are crap lol !
     
  9. Wow devs what were you thinking with this? In the past few weeks its been nothing but horrible updates and changes that none of the player base wants or needs.

    These pots are not good for the game by any means
     
  10. I have two responses for Kaw_Admin

    1 - The new pots are beautiful. Best artwork in the game. Now I know where some of the money spent on this game is going.

    2 - I cannot think of anything this game needed less than more pots. We have issues with small accounts outplundering large accounts in wars, so you help the small guys out with more hitting power, well done.
     
  11. No support. Again a very disruptive release timed to take gold out of the system, slow down HFBC. Ridiculously expensive compared with pvp plunder as noted by others
     
  12. Tbh i dont like the pots as of now but with that being said maybee theyd be more accepted if devs gave a reason behind the release of these new pots
     
  13. Nice post three. This is getting pretty ridiculous  maybe they realized wars are un-fixable and are trying to out-price players from pvp
     
  14. And I just realized we'll be spending 1.2 bil for every 10 scouts in war 
     
  15. It's ok guys, the next event will start soon that'll distract everyone from the insanity of this latest release.

    The hunt for the golden turd, items collected will be melted down to create more crap equipment
     
  16. Yep. Theyll update us with this event ending tommorow n asw sign up n info rest of week to distract
     
  17. Who ever said war is cheap?
     
  18. Hey KaW!!!!

    Do you mind telling us what you were trying to achieve with this farce?

    I had not seen much call for more pots in forums and even you guys should have seen that this would aggravate the SH issues.
     
  19. Awesome graphics looks nice
     
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