Please devs no. To your new locked thread announcement. Though whether you read this thread now I doubt. This will not fix match ups. It actually excludes clans reducing the possible match up pool and look at today's war. Just as miss-matched as ever. Let us use the war clans and solve our own clan member issues by being able to recruit full clans. No one can complain its a miss match if we can all run with full clans can they??? And if you have to do it please trial on Wednesday not a day that effects a substantial amount of clans that regularly war on Thursdays. Too many misses out today because of this limit. We don't need to risk a repeat.
Kaw_admin; I saw your newest post but its locked so I can't reply so I'm going to post here -- So what happens to the my EE level that I lost because I had to leave so that my clan could war?
Not the best idea you had devs, limiting it to 60 max members. I had veiled and still had to leave because it messed with the numbers, making me lose my EE bonus!!! Lots of clans have full members because people want to war. Now your forcing people out of their clans to find new homes. I thought the purpose of keeping your EE in clan only was to promote loyalty!! Bad idea devs!!!!!!!!!!
Dear developers, Please fire the idiot who decided to implement the opt out spell, while you're added fire the idiot who thought this system will promote clan unity. Why must you complicate it. LET PEOPLE KEEP THEIR EDGE AND ALL WILL WAR, then they will return to their clans and make everyone else jealous of their plunder capabilities, which in turn will make them all have a go at a war. It's a WIN WIN SITUATION!!! you'll make a bundle. You made war fun, don't keep MUCKING IT UP! Tyvm
Doubt you will even read this devs, but I hope u do. U cannot exclude clans that have over 60 unveiled members from wars. Doing so means that in order to war members must be kicked, which goes against one reason for the ee to begin with...clan loyalty. It is not always possible to contact members to get them to cast veil, or members sometimes decide at last minute whether or not to war thus it is unclar until moments before sign-up whether a clan will have 60+ members. One option: 4 hrs before war, when sign-ups begin, there should be a link on clan page that allows members to opt into war (but does not sign clan up for war). The first 60 to opt in make up the war roster. For one, this would make it easier for clans to track how many warrior they actually have warring (it would show on clan page how many had signed-up. But most importantly it wouldn't exclude an entire clan because a couple of members either forget or refuse to cast veil or leave the clan. It is a just way to decide the 60 members. If a clan signs-up but has under 60 not veiled, then the opt in need not be used, but could be used. Would really only benefit clans that normally have more than 60 warriors, etc. I'm sure you could make it work.
Why you lock the new announcement Devs? Are you too afraid that we are going to complaint? You make the mess and you are so chicken to clean up the mess? Come on! Even elementary kids will listen to complain if they make mistake! I still don't see the reason(s) why you raise the lower cap to 40 in war 1? War 1 has the lowest participate since day one release and you decide rise the lower cap? I don't see any logic here! Beside you want to kill war 1 from the schedule! Our clan was withdraw from war 1 because of the not meeting 40 active limits. Before the roster lock, admins make a head count and we got 41 ready and 9 veiled and after we got withdraw we did the head count again and we still got 41 ready. So any explanation(s) why we got withdraw? FYI, my feedback in forum never got reply!
... so many complaints??? ... I did notice that it's mostly the same kind of players complaining ... ppl who do prefer joining top clans n "earning" the edges "the clan makes" ... even if they don't want to participate in all wars following n do use veils instead ... easy way ... the achieve gets won by the actives only n they shall profit by just being part of the clan ... imho THAT'S wrong! ... same wrong as losing the edge by leaving the clan! ... as it's the members winning the edge for clan ... right? ... not the other way around ... I think it's good to force ppl to leave the clan if they won't participate ... a clean war if only participants are in ... I'd even appreciate if kicking inactives would be allowed again during war to prevent the worst trick of all ... placing an alt in opponent clans ... just like you did in ASW in the end n it worked fine ... if you'd give the edges perm to the fighters themselves also n not to the clans only ... THAT would be most fair ... I know that the "eternal winners" who mostly did win bc their clan was mighty only will attack my feedback again ... but I'm used to it by now ... no offense though ... thx ...
... I do avoid joining estocs now bc it's not motivating me for all those reasons I mentioned ... I'd start warring again if it would become more fair again n if it was up to my own efforts if I lose or win ... and I'd like to keep some proofs for my efforts also ... n not LEAVE it to the clan I HAD TO join, just bc the clans I'd like to join couldn't participate bc of unfair requirements ...
The war timing is good for the USA resident only For my time the Thursday war is start 11 pm and I may join it but with your new members rule I couldn't. Please stop working with that members rule. Thank u
Still think opt in better than veil - this veil is creating more issues than it solves and to be forced out of your home clan to avoid being counted? That's just not right so please devs give clans a chance! Mismatches are a problem that needs some thought and introducing a 40 - 60 number range that smaller clans cannot qualify for is not the answer. Tower build issue addressed but many disgruntled players on forums raising valid points surrounding mith and loss of EE. We war because that's what this game is. We don't need incentives but if incentives are given they need to be fairly implemented. Paladin equipment for some keen warrers are out of their range if losing wars due to trial problems beyond the player's control. This whole war system needs reviewing as players are being put off even participating. Let's also see the 2 hour midweek wars promised some time ago! This will perhaps help those with commitments who cannot commit to 4 hours. I support a lot of the changes being made but too many are penalising dedicated players and loyal clan members.
Wow devs, 40-60 for a Thursday afternoon USA TZ. You do realize ppl have jobs? You want our money plz make things realistic for ppl to join wars.
INCREASE MITH PAYOUT DRASTICALLY OR ESTOC'S WILL DIE. it's really that simple. The carrot isn't nearly big enough to draw people out. Why so stingy with mith? I don't get it....
@ Ancienne. How do members benefit from a clans win unless they have actually warred. The ee is awarded to those who war whilst in the clan not everyone I'm the clan as a whole. And members have lives outside of kaw. We can't all war every war. And as for myself. I've been with my clan since the start of these wars and far more. No easy rides here. @ hatf1eld. Fully support. The carrot is not big enough. Especially as there is no allowance for an ff that denies the winners their mith that they were prepared to war for 4 hours for. If devs want us to spend our valuable time playing this game and supporting them then the 'carrot needs to be bigger to make it worth our while.
Kaw I strongly urge you implement the maximum minimum roster limit for ee wars as ot drastically helps each clan get a match with similar amount of active hitters which is by far the most important part in making an ee war fair although I believe the limits should be 30-50 as some clans cannot get 40 members and clans being smaller would just force more clans to participate in wars thus giving even more chance we all get even matches
Jsmed really?? Why should we have to turn away members of our clan that desire to war just to benefit those who cannot get enough members to war for them?? The issue is for clans to resolve and not enter wars with the minimum amount of members. Not for devs to stop people from warring just because many of us want to war at our home clan. Get more to war with you not force larger clans to turn willing members down for war.