Thats not all you don't get ! You feel Towerbuilds were unfair. Had you understood the mechanics, you would have assassinated the towerbuild to dtw and scouted till KO. Its that simply, and we have done it in many wars, leaving towerbuilds with 1/15 record and 309K plunder for a EE war. Then you whine about towerbuilds getting a refund on the towers, have you considered the other effect converting to towers had ? There was a catch to towerbuilds .. the plunder were cut in half !! Towers don't give any plunder what so ever. And with 20+ towers, plunder had to come from remaining buildings. The towerbuilds plunder in EE wars came from KO loot. In epics it was just down 40% due to 20 towers. So towerbuilds have been earning 40% less the entire time they have been towerbuilds. That gold ain't refunded. It's meant to be a strategy war game - knowledge of the mechanics should be awarded. All the info is here on the forum, or your clannies can help ya. Where is Yarmes when you need him ?
In EE wars, if two kingdoms couldn't pin a Tower Build, we just ignored the Tower Build. It was not worth the effort or time to pin a Tower Builld. DIONYSUS is a Tower Build, we just left her alone. And pinned the rest of clan mates in EE n we won. Bcos she was not worth the effort of pinning. And her plunder from us sucked anyway.
I converted to tower build after one of our first EE wars against cg (btw). While initially against nerfing the tower build I am now glad they did away with it. Compensation is fair (ie full refunds on towers). Overall I believe this is for the best. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision. Well done devs. Just gotta fix mith payout now if you desire max participation in EE wars. Happy KaWing
Umm, smaller war size , but the minimum required is up by 33%. What sense does that make. 30 was hard enough without having to invite half of KaW. I give up.
I see why anyone would complain about this change .. A full refund is given and a bonus on max levels. A game like KAW will forever change and we just need to play it according all adjustments that are made.
It was an exploit, devs fixed... Fair enough. Also the compensation its fair enough. Taking about taking back what they achieved past months using that exploit, talking about banning them is to much... Plunder wars was an exploit aswell. Anyone who held an OSF was able to become LC with an eye blink. And nobody was banned for that. The exploit was fixed... Why people feel the need to revenge on tower builds now?
Granted they had to sacrifice plunder, however, did you take level 5 EE into consideration? There Mithril gain? I totally see your point but this is a move to better the overall aspect. Not just a few individuals
Boo Hoo all u whiners that wanted this man up n fight!! Like a team! Now devs change it Ok What about Rubbish Scout bombing on HANSELS! Why make a spy build to suffer like attack builds spies can! It makes no sense at all!!!!!! U make strength n weakness why hansel totally weak in wars?!?!? I know this won't get answered
Meisha i respect you a lot, you and my main fought side by side in the ASW, and you are a true, and knowledgeable warrior. I never got lvl 5 EE tho on my towerbuild, and tho some naturally did, so did non towerbuilds. I'm merely saying that from my perspective, there were pros and cons to towerbuilds. I feel had peeps understood the mechanincs, there would have been a lot less crying, and the towerbuild would not have been seen as unbalanced compared to other builds.
I think size 100+ in posts should be silencable unless in the original post, and with a character limit (so its usable as a headline, not a full post) as it clutters up the post, taking away from the general thread :lol:
i went thru several pages of forum and didn't see info i was looking for so please forgive me if i'm repeating an opinion already given i don't understand why all the hoopla with refunds and such why not simply just update kaw to reflect the new mechanics seems silly to take peoples towers away just to have them put them back up again i for one like my towers for protection as with any build a balanced approach seems to work best when plunder att def all are taken into account also i think exploitation of how things work in a game isn't exploitation at all but a demonstration of ones' knowledge of the rules and how to work within the rules if said rules give unfair advantage then a change in the rules is called for which is why this is being done in the first place i like everyone else am at the mercy of whatever the devs wish todo so i have to work with whatever they force apon me just seems counterproductive and more work than needed todo this the way the devs have proposed todo it
What I don't understand is why the mech change for outside of estoc? I understand the proposed change for estoc as the intention for estoc was no turtle wars I believe. However why change it from 20 buildings to 37(?) for osw? Everyone is able to make the build and decide if the osw dtw was worth it for less plunder/growing/hitting ability.
This is ******** I have a tower build alt, this ruins the strategy, instead of changing it they should just tell noobs how to combat it
Good job devsI think its funny that now ppl figured out this build in Kaw n YOU KILL IT INSTANTLY but u let it ruin FC, FC has had this "mechanic" forever n is ruining the game, now go over there n fix it
Towers could be beat end of! me and others teamed up to kill them yes it's an exploit but u find a system of beating them and work with It ,many people did and were converting to tackle them, plus surely if a clan of few or no towers would of added a little more spy attack per attack build assasinating towers to death could have been more manageable???
I'm neutral on this issue,i was bovered at first but once u know u can kill them it's all gravy baby