Kingdom of Snoops: A Proposal to Limit Spy Domination

Discussion in 'Strategy' started by The_Philosopher, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. I don't support. The game is all about war. And the war is all about the strips. If you want to just sit and pin each other for days on end with no real strip mechs then go play GaW. They have the mechs you are looking for.

    I like the fact that their is a risk involved. And making new lands for only attack builds WOULD destroy spies. Would completely make them useless. Because we would have to all convert. Here's why

    A 10m cs spy can be stripped by an attack build with 100k cs spy stats. Once a spy is 0'd then it is only defending with pots/items/bfa. So to defend from strips we would have to tower up. And we wouldn't be able to strip attack builds who decided to go full HL T5 towers.
    I feel if you want to be an attack build then you have to chance being stripped. Or do like D_E_A_D_L_Y has. I don't think you should get the best of both worlds. High attack and high spy def. You should pick one, as it currently is. Take out strip mechs and you take out osw. Or at least the most valuable part of osw. And that basically turns this game into GaW, which sucks
     
  2. I support this.

    An example: I have no idea how this happened, but KaW is rigged for spy builds.

    So me and a friend were messing around, the friend is a spy build. She would steal gold and when I felt it was too much, I'd hit her and take it all back. She built a stable. A flippin stable. And attacked me, once. She won. I have the same stats now as I had then. I was mortified. "What in the world???!!!" I built a defense FORTRESS. She bypassed it and won. She said she didn't use a single pot.

    This is an example of why. It may have something to do with something entirely different, but I do agree.

    Spy builds are way overpowered. Somehow they need to get weakened.
     
  3. There definitely does need to be a reverse scout mechanic for attack builds. I hate havin to use tons of SAP to win scouts on my attack build to 0 a hansel lol. Probably why nearly all my accounts are spies
     
  4. Well... You are kind of a hypocrite... And it seem okay... Anyway, I'm neutral
     
  5. I have a

    3m/2m/2.5m/4.5m stat hybrid thing. It's my favourite account lol.
     
  6. Val if you did that(reverse sct mech, or whatev u mean) then it would only be fair to allow spies to be able to attack troops and troops not be able to defend with pots. So it's tit for tat
     
  7. Wow, o_O so many people here are hansels/pure spy, including op... And you support, wow... Amazing
     
  8. I feel the game is balanced as is. Attk builds get the advantage of being able to zero us through use of scouts and us not being able to defend scts with pots. That alone balances out the equation
     
  9. Anyways, pinning is useless in large scale OSW's... That's why clans like YAFI have been successful. They don't waste pots and time pinning someone for a lil bit, they get right in and either pot burn or strip.
     
  10. I don't support.
     
  11. Exactly Val. It's all about the strips. Everything else is just a lead up to a strip
     
  12. That's when things are outnumbered. If you have a stubborn bunch who won't CF Your gonna have to pin them
     
  13. I agree hitters hav less meat in war than hybrids and hansels and also less mechanism advantages. Most players either goes hansel or hybrids.

    One possibilty will be a slight improvement in plunder from atk buildings thus brging hitters back as a plunder powerhouse in wars

    Previously when discussing ab the unfair advantages of twr blds hav in ee wars, I hav also brought up the possibility of having hitters (builds with less than 25% land with spy bldg) able to hit twr blds in their "god mode". This will brg hitters back into ee war as the natural nemesis of twr blds. (Thou dev hav implement their own ways of nerfing twrs)

    I doubt a new land exclusive for atk bldgs is fair and would goes well for those players on pure spy or hybrid builds. (and more players quitting out of frustration lmao) pure spy would like to stay pure and will not be able to upgrade further. Hansels and Hybrids may not need too many atk bldgs either. They hav spells and atk pots to hit thru most builds when they low trp except for big hitters and lb. they aim and sit on hansels in wars thus 25lands of atk bldgs could be an overkill to atk hansels

    Opening the lowland for t5 might be a more viable option. With more lands there's more possible combination of stats ratio within a build restriction. With the suggestion mentioned above to increase plunder from atk bldg slightly, There could be "pure hitters" who can hit wicked plunder in eb and war while there's little way to hit them unless u get a spy to ass them down
     

  14. lol I'm pure spy because the present mechanics of the game favors spies. I am now running 4 spies/ one hitter. A little sad but that is what the game dictates.
     
  15. After creating countless spy alts and growing them to over 6m cs each, I find its actually not even worth getting over 1/2m spy attack. When stripping your going to 0 their spies anyway. Perfect build is something like 4m/4m/2m/2m
     
  16. Alot of good points,support
     

  17. This is an important point, one I am not entirely in favor with. Actually, I am almost done an OSW reform thread. Personally, I believe the devs want to push Kaw away from OSW and to EE. Why else would they require 2 weeks before giving the full 60% refund on ally drops? Such a move can only be seen as a way to hurt strip banks and strips.
     

  18. yeah, but a 6mil+ spy is a lot more effective in getting over the tower builds we see these days.
     
  19. Phil it's a fact the Devs hate osw. To many quit lose, everything they have invested in and stop paying into the game or stop playing totally. We destroy a clan half go inactive how does that look to them. Not good I guess but osw is the best bit about this game. **** doing EE wars all the time to much of a sinkhole and takes up to much time!