In the main I believe that the majority of people who were chasing moths were doing so as they expected some pretty awesome equipment. New equipment is light on stats and enchantment resets are crazy.
Very well stated Damascus. I know I can be controversial and certainly not always as eloquent, however the things I stated I wanted to see is clarity and information on promos The devs letting us know exactly what to expect for time or financial investment. If kaw is true to their word then that information will be available for future events. And will benefit everyone. I'm still as stated 50/50 on the rewards. Main the equipment is worthless but on this account the rewards outside of equipment are appreciated. Shame I didn't stay at this level for both but that was my decision. It certainly seems to favour the smaller player As devs have agreed to extra info next time think I will stick around to see what develops. And hope the next one is closer to what everyone expects. If nothing all the complaints got us that info promised.
Honestly I can't say I was too surprised about the equip because if they made the equip higher stat value than the war equip, then more people would be complaining. Like "whats the point in warring if you could eb or do events to get good equip and not spend money." If it was shorter it would've been better I agree. Overall I liked the turn out of this event. Good job devs looking forward to see whats in store
I liked the promo myself. I was mainly interested in the free inferno, horns, seals, and xtals. Did I spend money? Sure I did, but I'm concerned with growing ATM and would have spent the money anyway on seals and xtals regardless of whether an event was being held or not. So basically I got some free stuff for doing what I would have been doing anyway. As far as the equip is concerned, well.. I'm not the most impressed with it, but that's just me. I knew coming into this that it wouldn't beat or probably even rival most of what's currently in my arsenal so therefore didn't have any expectations. I think for smaller to mid size players that haven't been ee-ing, or already have their eq max enchanted, the eq is great in the meantime. Thoughts on future events.. Change up the dropping ebs a bit more often and give us better hints. Nothing like running a 16hr eb to test how good the promo drop rate is, only to get less than 10 or so. That's really discouraging considering in the same amount of time someone's made almost 2,500 by repeatedly smashing through the same eb in 20mins. Next, as kaw_admin already stated, hints on the eq stats would be prudent so players know exactly how hard they want to try for it. Not sure exactly how a player that's not spending money is supposed to keep pace with players that are. I don't know and I'm not asking for specific numbers, but the top 10 winners is evidence enough for me that the more you spend, the better your odds. While I can understand the concept in certain scenarios, this shouldn't be one of them. Maybe it's a naive notion, but I feel EVERYONE, from the 20m cs lb player to the 500k cs newb should have the same chances to win an event if they're equally as active, and not have to spend a dime doing it. Just some thoughts, take them as you will.
Sorry just a comment to bobcat I war and for the effort needed it would be great if it matched red equipment. It would help balance matches and equalise war clans. You are right many would complain but not all of us.
Nice post dam. Personally I was bored senseless by this promotion. B2B NML with the occasional HTE got me to 17k. Bit disappointed with the equipment but that's really because its not what I was hoping for. I have one observation though. Why force clans to run the same eb for 4 weeks. It has done nothing but bore and turn people off the game. So why not just spread the drops evenly across all eb? Reward activity! The more you hit, the more you get. I understand HTE will always drop more (I'm not gonna use this post to go over my complaints about this EB) But I don't understand the thinking behind forcing clans who aren't b2b HTE clans into doing 1 repetitive EB, surely boring their customers can't be an ata objective. Personally I'll be giving the next promotion a very wide berth.
Equipment does not suck, but the fail rate on enchantment is to high for the cost of trying. 2 aqua and 3 inferno for low levels and exponentially higher as you go will/has wiped many people's elements clean with little to show for it. Really, my only complaint. Otherwise I agree with OP on all other points. Thank you devs, looking forward to more of these (albeit shorter lol) and the upcoming updates. p.s. hope the matchup algorithm for s.3 can be worked to find a fix for the LB/small roster, as it has made EE war very distasteful for clans not assembled in that same manner. Ty in advance
Heh. I thought I had made this shorter, but then, I put some large gaps in this too. I wish I had deleted one sentence, but then, that wouldn't have made it noticeably shorter. Might have made me sound a little less redundant, though. =) @SEXY_STRIPPER: I responded to this point. A lot of eq is difficult to enchant. It doesn't seem any more difficult to enchant than others, particularly the new stuff. It seems right in line with resets and element cost. You feel this eq is vastly different than some of this new eq, it makes me wonder if you have any of it. Your account has a mature amount of war eq, so I don't know. You are using Icetail, which makes me believe you at least wouldn't replace it with anything other than mith gear. @-AoW-Yoda: You are hitting on one of the improvements I think could be made. Lighten up. Kaw_Admin just said they would make future promo's shorter. Be reasonable. You will have to allow for an amount of trial and error. @corsair: I have seen a LOT of people sporting the new eq, and especially the icetail. I agree calling either of the top tier eq incomparable is an over statement, but hey, the staff is only 1 million less than the stormbow. It seems you are capable of over statement as well. @THE_DARK_KNIGHT: It is true that the eq might be useless to some. I can't use it. However, I have seen many using Icetail, and if you have it, it would be an upgrade to your abyssal blade. Not everyone has Nightbringer or have the regular version of that weapon available to them. In my original post, I didn't bring up greater information, specifically a statement as to what stats eq will provide. Between that improvement and a shortened promo, it seems to me 90% of the complaints that are mentioned would be resolved just by these improvements, which Kaw_Admin said they would do.
I think this a great thread. I fully support the points you've made and hope the developers continue to do promos such as this one. Hopefully a bit shorter, as you say.
I thought the promo was fine.. I did a handful of NML's mostly HTE's though and made 17k moths.. Doing mostly HTE's and TGL's I made good gold/bb's and ammy's aqua and inferno, and I spent the same amount of money as I do normally.. I didn't care to reach 40k moths, just 17k to get the best equips, I'll level them up with the aqua/inferno I got doing back to back HTE's, and until I buy the soulreaper the ice tail is better than the stingpoint, making the promo that much more worthwhile to me.. All in all I say good job
Damascus, this is certainly one of the better posts I've seen lately and a very good initiative. I am pretty sure an honest and constructive feedback thread like this one provides valuable information to ATA. First of all, despite a few shortcomings, this seasonal event was certainly a success compared to the previous one. This might be partly due to the fact that expectations by players were lower and more realistic than during the fang event. To a large part, the modified and richer rewards as well as the overall higher moth drop rate contributed to the positive feeling I had about this event. The major critiscism I'd have would be about the fact that moths basically dropped most consistently from only two ebs, NML and HTE. I have no problem that HTE should always be among the best dropping ebs, but well... NML b2b during a month was stretching it a bit. Of course, it could have been worse (imagine a month of Reckoning or Desert Sting...). I would have loved to see more diversity in the ebs dropping moths, especially having drops in typical ebs done by academies (TFO, Recko and Ambush). I spent over two weeks in our academy and made a whooping 58 moths during that time. Disappointing... You basically had to leave that academy to gather moths, weakening it further. To the duration: Tricky and I can understand opinions about it being too long. However the length made it much easier to get decent reward levels for average activity players. If we hadn't been locked into NMLs for the whole duration, it would have been fine. It simply was forgiving for players off on holiday. Well, one word to the equip rewards: I think it was pretty obvious that everything except the top rewards would be inferior to the best EE and eb equips in game. Still many players seem surprised and disappointed by their reward. In fact, those lower rewards are still quite nice for newer players. One point of critics that I see valid is the high enchanting price for those low end equips. Not sure we'll ever see a Sling enchanted to lvl12... Overall a big thumbs up from me, devs.
Very valuable thread, I really appreciate the responses as well. Thank you all for the feedback. We'll make the next event better, and the one after that better and so on... thanks for playing everyone!
To everyone complaining about the equip, what did you really expect. It is equip you get from an eb, something that doesn't even hit back. If they made the equip any better it would be more powerful then the war equip which would be just wrong. You got free stuff, be happy. Devs don't need to do this kind of stuff but they take the time to make fun little events. So stop whining
I think if 90% of people new the Equipment stats before starting their 3/4 weeks of b2b NML no one would have even bothered. As you kept this a secret and a surprise(not a nice one) you got your hordes of xstal purchases and therefore don't give a . The end
@damacus I haven't bothered to gather any recent EB equip because the mithril equipment is superior. In that regard I have the mithril sword, level 1. The new equip is barely better than it at level 8/9.
Yeah stat information please. The stats on shield and dagger are a joke, thanks for free xstals and nob items but still...i did the promo for the equipment