Iowa Primary

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Nathan_WINNING, Feb 2, 2016.

  1. Honestly, I love Jeb Bush. In all the debates, from what I've seen, he is very knowledgable and wise. I think he would be a great president. I wouldn't be surprised to see him running again in a couple years.
     
  2. Aquarius we are totally on the same page here brotha. There is no way in hell we can support a socialist in the White House. Our upper class is already taxed so much, and saying "we can just raise the upper class taxes" isn't cutting it. like I mentioned before, people are inherently unequal and upper class citizens didn't get where they are by being handed a check for having anchor babies. Think of the inflation we would have 
     


  3. Jesus H Christ...
     

  4. Yeah maybe so, you got to be a fool to think business want to stay in the US if they want to produce cheaper items. Why pay US workers if you can hire a kid in China to make $5 a day?

    That's the problem, we need too keep industry here, America is good at one thing and that's selling consumer goods. We want and want things, you hate rich people and want their money. Why not earn it? Invent something or put forth the effort to produce(WORK GET A JOB). Unemployment isn't helping anyone, if you we didn't have benefits for those unemployed I bet people will try way harder to get jobs.

    As long as you're not paying things are ok, that's why Obama care has failed. The larger supporters behind it are pulling out and big pharma is increasing prices because they know the government will pay for it. When people here "FREE" they lose their minds. Someone else is paying for you, now let's actual explain what Obama care was suppose to be. Obama care was suppose to help those pay for the rest of fee of the medical care you get. Now it's the governor has to pay for you to go to the hospital.

    The more the government pays for things the crappier and more expensive things will get. Another thing lets go back to the China example I used, it's communism why do they still have billionaires? It'd because you will never be true equals and to think you should be is worth being slapped.

    Too add communism hasn't worked for a 1st world country yet.
     
  5. Aquarius^^^^ facts
     
  6. Government run healthcare is dangerous. Look at how much debt America has. The American government is broke, and healthcare is expensive. This means that, as the debt balloons, waits will increase and services will decrease. The over all quality of your healthcare system will go down.

    People may disagree with me, and that's fine. These people have what I call "faith in government". I simply don't share that faith. I have faith in a regulated free market, (key is in the word "regulated")but, I digress.
     
  7. Do you guys think Hilary's camp rigged the coin toss ? Who would think you could win a election by a coin toss ?
     

  8. Idk where morons like this guy come up with this nonsense....trump never expected to take iowa
     
  9. Not sure why you feel the need to insult, but, I digress. My sources for trump winning Iowa were
    1. Trump
    And
    2. Every single poll, which showed him winning

    Before votes are cast, that's rally all I can go on is polls, and the polls showed trump with a 4 point lead, not a 3 point loss. I know this bothers the trumpkins, but that's politics.

    So, is trump finished? Far from it. We see that the billionaire mogul is mortal, but he's far from dead. He will perform well in the granite state. He's got a 20 point lead, according to the polls,mand Cruz has no evangelical vote to rely on there. Factor in the fact that Kristi and Jeb are running there (they weren't in Iowa) and Cruz's supoort gets fractured.

    Csn the polls be wrong? Sure, but I can't see them being 20 points wrong.

    The only lesson I see from Iowa is that trump is
    1. Not invincible
    And
    2. Now needs to work harder to secure his nomination.

    If trump swept the first 3 primaries, he'd he the candidate. That didn't happen, so, now it's up for grabs l like it or hate it, but that's just my analysis. (Insult free!)
     
  10. 1st off. No one said communism. The fact you keep bringing this up shows how little of a grasp you actually have on anything being proposed. You know next to no economic theory and philosophy simply by that assertion and are flaunting it. That being said, let's address the rest of your post.

    First paragraph. Tax reform includes Import Tax reform and enforcement. Simple concept really. Thats how you influence jobs to be created here.

    Who hates rich people? I don't. Its just absolutely foolhardy to defend them when high risk investment banking nearly caused our economy to collapse. Deregulation gave them the room and ability to fail us. To suggest to keep going this path when the government had to foot the bill to save our asses on OUR tax dollars and expect no change to be made is downright stupid.

    Also you obviously don't understand how Pharmaceuticals and Insurance operate. We've been paying, as citizens of this country, nearly 10 times or more for the same exact drugs for decades compared to what other first world countries pay for the same exact medication. The major difference being is their governments negotiate the prices with the pharmaceuticals whereas ours are typically more privatized distribution. Is that fair or right?

    Also it's not going to be the government pays for it. Its going to be the government uses our taxes to negotiate the prices down across the board. We still will pay for those medications just at a drastically lower price due to those negotiations.

    I have a job, thanks for caring!

    Also me and I'm assuming you, pay taxes. Do you think it's fair that tax loop holes exist for people way above our bracket? We are talking ones that have lost our government trillions over years. The tax reform is to close those loop holes and it's needed. Don't come at me with that stupid Friedmanesque economics trash. Its never worked and never will due to it's based on the concepts that money will always be used and reinvested instead of hoarded and grown which couldn't be further from the truth.

    Now tell me more about how rich people can't afford taxes like us common folk because if they didn't have billions tucked away the world will crumble. :Lol: Oh woe is me for their plight!
     
  11. Does anyone know how many times Trump has filed for bankruptcy? Anyone seen how the international community has reacted to his blatant racism?
     

  12. First off I attack the premise that what people want from Sanders is not common sense it's communism. Have you noticed that those in goverment make lots of money like 500k a year? That being said they fund their campaigns for reelection then charge absurd intrest rates, so the incumbents always have been getting rich and richer that's the problem.
     
  13. You literally just touched on Campaign Finance reform and BERNIE SANDERS IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT.
     
  14. Also Bernie Sanders is no where near Communism. The fact that you keep saying that, once again, demonstrates your lack of understanding of the subject you keep bringing up.

    Democratic Socialism is a very real thing that is FAR different than Communism.
     
  15. Do you by chance know what Nazism is? Yep, Democratic Socialism. Damn.
     
  16. Obviously "Democratic" translates to "Autocratcy" in your example. I'm sure Totalitarian and Dictatorship likewise translate into "Socialism" somewhere there.

    Here's a project for you. Google Democratic Socialism in the world and find me present ones that exist them tell me how they directly correlate to Nazism Germany.
     
  17. Anyone who thinks trump is racist is so ignorant. LISTEN TO THESE SPEECHES! Regarding Mexicans; trump said "the people we have coming over the border are not high class citizens. We are not getting doctors and lawyers, we're getting lower class people that feed off our government and have children here for our benefits." How tf is this racist? Maybe you should listen to the speech yourself instead of listening to CNN news or The New York Times.
     
  18. But you cannot just nationalize everything and raise taxes on the upper class citizens so lower class people that sit on their azz and don't work, only getting free benefits from the government, to be able to go to college for free and have health care for free. We need to stop giving away free benefits, In capitalism you work for what you need to support yourself and family. People getting free health care and living off unemployment checks and food stamps and free everything is the total opposite of Capitolism; it's taking away the competitive drive to succed and have a good job.
     
  19. Single payer healthcare isn't free healthcare.

    Also do some reading, you don't know what you're talking about. Democratic Socialism isn't full government control. Its just better regulated. Deregulation is the sole and only reason for the recent near economic collapse. That all could've been prevented. Is it not wise to learn from history? Then why are you ignoring our countries immediate history?