IMPORTANT: No More Reset Bonuses

Discussion in 'Past Announcements' started by admin, May 31, 2012.

  1. I understand people feel they are being punished - that is why I am encouraging people to look at the bigger picture and not to panic.

    I am not sure the drop mechanics can tell a drop from a reset when it comes to the gold returned - you may be asking for a Massive programming change. and even if so people would just buy an alt - volley transfer - then reset the alt to circumvent the volley-drop fix.

    Best of section I do nothing with. Devs typically move threads there by community request. But I agree Best Of section needs "qualifications" or "standards". But that is another topic. I would salute you if you took on the task of writing a thread kicking off the forming of such standards.
     
  2. That request has been heard and was looked upon favorably.

    Finding a way to have item drops from hitting PvP is not as easy as just doing it.
    Considering that people would just farm alts or OSF to get the items.

     
  3. So what happens to all my resets do I lose all my stuff I worked hard to get?
     
  4. Ya know,

    I've kept my mouth shut for a long time regarding the developers here, but I have to ask this... Do you not want people to play anymore?

    1st. You eliminate PWars, which we all wanted eliminated so people would actually war again.. PWars were killing the game, but then you remove gold payouts from system wars? What are you guys thinking? Now there's no point to having a system war. Who wants mithril? What a waste of my time. People don't earn mithril during real wars - they earn plunder, gold, riches, weapons, land.... But no, we earn mithril that we can spend on some crappy text color changes or on an attack/spy bonus. Hey - if you're feeling really daring you can blow half you mithril load and block your allies from being seen.. Oh - it only lasts for a few hours. Does mithril help you grow? No. Not at all.

    Now you can blow gold on buying mithril too - essentially making it again "not worthy of a reward of war and a totally pointless endeavor" Not to mention you fixed the plunder problem when you made it that the winning side can't forfeit. Why can't we have our gold bonus back when we war? Have you guys realized no one is system warring anymore? What is the point?

    Now you're eliminating bonuses for resetting? Are you kidding me? People work hard on bonuses for resets... So what if someone volley's gold to their reset? It's their gold. They didn't "unfairly earn" the gold. They're losing a major percentage doing these drop volleys. Nah, I know. Let's punish everyone and remove reset bonuses completely. Let's limit ally slots (okay, maybe we need a cap there) But what's killing me is there's slowly becoming no reason to play the game anymore. There are no rewards. There's no gold won in war, if you can believe that's logical... and now we've removed one avenue for getting some cool items. "We're gonna let you win those through epic drops." Another feature of the game that is backfiring.

    Clans are falling apart because your random system can't remove people who have already won the sword or whichever permanent item. It's really not fair when a clan runs figure of death 300 times and only 20 swords drop across those 300 times. So what happens? People leave clans "item-hunting." You can't get anyone to commit to being a member in a clan anymore because they're off going to wherever they can to MAYBE win a permanent item. Oh did I mention you now need certain items to hit certain epic battles? That's working out really well, more people leaving more clans looking for more garbage.

    Hey here's another idea - let's reinvent the wheel and create the same game with different graphics and call it Gangs at War. Yeah, we won't lose players who jumped ship because of all the ridiculously un-thought-out "updates" and "re-configurations for the better." Oh wait... we did. We lost half of the best players in the game to Gangs at War and that game is a pile of crap.

    If you wanted to kill this game, why didn't you just quit while you were ahead and shut it down?
    No, force the people who have actually made friends here and used to have a good time to be pissed off all the time because we feel the game is dying.... and it is dying and it's because of improper managerial decisions on the logistics programming side of the development team.

    You think you're fixing things and in fact you're making things worse.

    Hey, why not take away all the permanent items cuz people are using them to hit other people, and why not remove mithril and prestige from war and just full out go for "Absolutely No Point to Play this game anymore," so our players can stop spending their hard earned money on your ridiculously overpriced "add-ons" available for purchase for this game like crystals and nobility.

    Oh right, it's okay to spend real money on nobility and "cheat," whoops, I mean "upgrade" your reset account to LCBC... we just don't want you doing it the "non-profitable to ATA" way.

    The direction the developers are taking is disgusting me, and I've held on through all the crap of the last 2 years. Keep going devs, you'll have everybody right where you want them soon - looking for another game to play.
     
  5. TBH I think that the perm items are will be harder to get now which is good 
     
  6. I'll hold judgement till I see what the Achievement Bonuses look like.

    I have two accounts, one did the rest routes , the other (this one) did not.

    Right now it is looking like the reset work is for naught....

    I can see why the devs are doing this - been expecting it and think we will see more in this vein. Take me back to the original T4/pwar postings - "current game direction will allow rampant ally inflation and unlimited gold in with limited gold out - super clans and instant builds"

    Yes, we live in interesting times....
     
  7. Way to go KAW! The first time you said you were going to do this the public was outraged and demanded it not to be done, you listened then and only for a short time it appears. If we did not want this back then why would we want this now? Quit drumming up lame updates and work on making this game better, i.e. bug fixes etc...I personally have not completed the resets and also believe that it is ridiculous to make the perm items available to just anyone. They have been set out as a reward for those who are willing to grind out and complete the necessary amount of resets and now all you are doin is slapping them in the face by allowing just anyone to receive a "rare drop" item from continuously hitting a reset button for EB. There isn't any skill or time prep for that, keep these items available in its originallity.
     
  8. PLEASE READ PAGE 1.

    You do not lose any items

    you do not lose any ally slots beyond 450 (550 if you purchased the additional slots)

    any slots beyond that you are gifted 50 nobility per reset and the slots are removed.

    For some it is possible they may have more allies than slots
    - they will keep the allies
    - as they sell they will not be able to replace them until you have an available ally socket.
     
  9. Dev Band-Aids for a bleeding corpse.
     
  10. Sorry but this is a bait and switch plain and simple.

    Sorry some found ways to gain the system but many vets gave up months of growth to earn these (per devs direction) and now it is being taken away.

    How do I know myth won't disappear later when someone figures a way to manufacture it easy for example?

    Devs are breaking a cardinal rule of games by changing the rules mid way through instead of fixing the volley issue months ago before this diluted the reset pool.

    I am beyond pissed and I am sure other old schoolers will feel the same.
     
  11. Biggest loss: the reset items were personal and could be obtained personally. Now it is a group "drop" item.

    Oof.
     
  12. Another STUPID update. U know some ppl work hard for their resets, and who are YOU to care what we do with OUR gold that we earned hard. You are taking out the volly transfer system so leave the dang reset bonuses in l. Are u stupid devs? You are ruining the game one update at a time!
     
  13. I see literally NO downside to this. Land completeing 4 times is SO easy nowadays that it'll take longer for the item to drop for the majority of people anyways. Did it for the ally slots? Your getting FREE nobility from the devs if you went enough times.
     
  14. Let me get this straight.... You wanna get rid of reset bonuses, because of gold transferring?

    The guys that did the resets early on get to keep their bonuses. But lose a bit on ally slots. (You know, they probably did a bit of gold transferring to do this, right?)

    Guys who haven't reset already can't get the bonuses... Well, maybe as 'rare' item drops.

    So, basically, the guys that did it back in the day have the novelty of reset items cheapened, because you can get them through EBs...

    The newer players can't do the gold transfers that the established LB players did to get where they are... They can spend a bundle on crystals and nob points if they wanna try to catch up.

    Everybody's complaining.

    Wow, you can't make everybody happy all the time.... But you CAN manage to piss everybody off!!! Nice job, ATA
     
  15. I did my first reset after having 28 lands, I needed to to get some people off me.

    My second I had 42 kands roughly and I did because I knew having extra ally slots would benefit my style of play (OSW).

    After my second reset I spent a few weeks getting 3
     

  16. Get your facts straight before you fly off the handle.

    NO ONE IS LOSING THEIR RESET BONUSES.

    You will just no longer be able to get them via resetting
    you now have to get them via other mechanics who's difficulty is equal to their reward.

    Only people who abused the reset system will feel a loss in ally slots and they are being compensated with nobility points.
     
  17. Giving me 200 nobs for all my hardworking of doing 4 resets is a slap in my face.

    Letting people buy ally slots is a slap in the face.

    This is just ridiculous, I will not spend one more penny on this game until reset bonuses such as allies and items go to people who actually reset, not bought them or won them.

    FIX THIS NOW BEFORE WE ONE STAR THIS APP TO DEATH
     
  18. Lmao....ditto to all of this
     
  19. I'm sure you have the information on how fast resets were done... So why not just take away the bonus for anyone who did a reset in under a week? You say that's who this is aimed at so just hit them.