Illegal Immigration with Zeth

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Zethryr, Dec 11, 2014.


  1. Good thing Obama didn't accomplish anything 
     
  2. Yes i agree media does sensationalize the news to their benefit. Its sad but true thats how they justify the bottom line. Isolated incidents grow a life of their own.
     
  3. Politics in general r the power of the day fights the Opposition to enact laws or change. Mostly results in pissin matches. In the US a 4yr term is guaranteed n rarely is there a non confidence vote. Lobbyists n big business sway governments into decision making.Politicians r not free to do as they see fit when beholden to their kingmakers.

    If i were an American i'd question the many allocations of tax payers dollars. In Canada my home province of BC i object to the underfunding of schools. The present govt in power has slowly reduced spending n transferred the burden onto teachers. Strikes occur n class room sizes get bigger. IMO kids r not being well served getting a decent education. Education is the root of most things in life.
     
  4. Under qualified!!! I worked at a chicken plant full of them if you asked them something it's yes or no ever if it wasn't a yes or no question I'm not hating because a lot of them ended up being nice guys but for most ppl being under qualified isn't the problem there
     
  5. You do realize that the economy is doing better than ever, right?

    DOW and S and P been at all time highs.

    Thousands of new jobs created day by day

    The recession we had is over, and that recession was handed to us by Bush. Obama has been able to end it. Sure, he hasn't done everything, but he surely hasn't done nothing.
     
  6. Op I remember reading the speech and no where did he say that illegal migrants who had committed crimes would be staying.
    Nor is about letting people not there now in easier .
    It's about recognising that there are a very great many people living in a America forced to work cash jobs and not helping the country as they could.
    Allowing them to come out of the shadows and start the process of legal migration allows them to pay taxes and become part of a functioning society.
    It's probably not an ideal solution but it's starting to at least treat the issue not hot air and hairdos on cable news talking crud for point scoring
     
  7. In his speech he said if they had been here for five years, and met the requirements they could become legal.

    If they are illegal immigrants, with no records, how will they prove they have been here for five years? Or have no criminal records?

    They could come across today, say they have been here for 5 years, and become legal.
     

  8. Ahhh, the beauty of a two party system.
     
  9. Us vs them mentality hardly a healthy system
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  10. Lol
     
  11. This is all blown up immigrants like my grandfather have helped there city. He came on a workers visa and worked his ass off for his family to get them to college. 5 kids went to private universities and has 2 kids who work as politics.

    He also has lots of houses he rents out to unlucky people who have lost there houses. He basically has them pay what they can to stay there. In Mexico he gives out money to his neighbors.

    Don't say they all cause issues.
     
  12. I said illegal immigrants.
     
  13. The US Federal govt spends twice as much on servicing the interest on the national debt than it does on education.
    An estimated 1/30 of the 2015 budget
    Health, Pensions, Defence, Deficit, Welfare, Interest in order r ahead topping the expenditures..
     
  14. Just saying, one of the reasons Rome fell was because workers were replaced by cheap working slaves so no one had jobs.
    Not trying to degrade Mexicans but this might become a similar situation.
    Again, not trying to offend.
     
  15. 1). The burden of proof is on them to show that they had been here over 5 years. If they cannot prove that,then they cannot meet that requirement

    2).not having a license or Social Security card does not mean that there is no documentation either here in the US or in their home country. USCIS and ICE have access to federal and state databases, as well as the ability to obtain criminal records from other countries.

    3). There are certain grounds of inadmissibility and deportability that are not waived under the new program. No there is no welcome mat for criminals.

    4). US has far more immigrants than it can possibly process and deport. This executive order will allow ICE to focus on the actual criminals, deport more of them, and make the country safer.

    Edited for grammatical and spelling purposes (section (2)
     
  16. #4 is shame. They can focus on criminals without executive orders. It just sounds good.
     
  17. If they would use that as a talking point. Let's face because it sounds good. It makes you wonder what else they are doing because it sounds good to the public. Rather than it being the right thing to be done.

    As we all do already realize it's a never ending stream of crap. At least those have any age upon them.

    If you want to be a professional liar, and deceiver enter the political ring. The little minions pushing the message are the worse. They can't be held accountable personally.
     
  18. Immigration should be outlawed in my opinion for one reason.

    Political correctness.

    Sorry if it offends you or anything but if people are going to immigrate to our country, they're gonna have to deal with our beliefs.
     
  19. same. he works hard and takes care of his family, he doesn't do "bad" things in this country. he works hard, and appreciates what he has more than anyone else i know.
     
  20. As a Mexican American I oppose Mr. Obamas plan to give thousands of illegals amnesty. That is giving hundreds of people who have came in the U.S through the proper channels a big F-U. Why even bother having an immigration system if democrats going to go around it? As much as i feel for my hispanic people we need to put Americans back to work.