After this EB I guess to help out I'll do a haunting and then an ambush. Post which one I made more in. I'm not gonna do that one assass bull crap though.
Err again I want to say that this is hunting vs ambush. Not big hansel vs small hansel. If hunting, or ambush pays less, it just pays less. Regardless of size. Think about an extreme case: warbeast vs hunting. Warbeast just pays less, regardless of size. And second thing I want to bring to ur attention is that everyone can earn the pot cost back from the ally bonus. The problem is not if one can earn back the pot cost. The problem is after I minus away the pot cost, do I earn more? In my test, I earn less. I made 11.3m per action in ambush. But 8m only in the hunting. Plz revisit my calculation. That is net value. My credibility lies in the fact that I hv the same size and same way of unloading in both EBs. The average value definitely reflect something. Only point that can be argued is that my size is small. But I don't think size matters for the reason I stated earlier.
Hopefully you do realize that size does matter. If you cause more damage per hit - it increases the bonus you get at the end. Haunts vs. Ambush = bigger total payout if the hitters are bigger. In essence, at your size, Ambush may pay more, because of the amount of successful attacks you can mount.
Willy I don't understand ur logic. Let me express my point this way. I earn 10m per assassination in ambush. But 7m in hunting. If there is a player who is humongous. He earn 30m per assassination in ambush. By right he should only be earning 21m in hunting. If it is less, it's less. U Must compare the ppl of same size. Not big vs small. Same for atk. In my calculation Without pot( ambush) Payout per action= 11.3m( ally bonus) 0m( participation reward) - 0m( pot cost)= 11.3m With pot( hunting) Payout per action=12m(ally bonus) 8m( participation reward) -12m(pot cost) =8m For a humongous player Without pot(ambush) Payout per action= 19m 0m -0m =22m With pot( hunting)=22m 8m( u use same pot, same str, same payout) -12m= 18m U can see that regardless of one's size. The payout is less. Why is this so? In the area of ally bonus, bigger size earns more. But one can't omit the fact that one pays12m in pot but earns 8m back only! That's why I say the moment one uses pot, he earns less.
Has any hansel tried NML? It pays the same as the Haunting does for each attack and I don't have to use pots at all. But, I do have 6 COEs and a good amount of attack bonus from allies.
Wrong. You do not understand. For a larger hansel, the payout of haunting vs ambush is different to yours, so your analysis is about you and does not take into account the size of other players that are larger than you. I used an account similar in stats to me, except 1 attack building - pure hansel. My findings show that i earn more in Haunting, and much less in Ambush. The fact that you earn less in Haunting does not mean it is proportionate for all size builds. What willy is saying - the larger you are, i.e. the amount of damage you do per hit, is your strength. Larger players are stronger, and earn more bonus as they grow. It is the way the game works. So, a larger player, i.e. me, would earn more off Haunting than you would, just as a smaller player would earn more off Ambush rather than Haunting. You are earning more with Ambush because you can get more successes. That is what Willy is saying, i think. Although, from what I can tell, BFA also plays a part, due to needing less pots/more strength in attacks. My alt has a high BFA, which would skew results.
I just did Ambush. On haunting if I get items I make 2b an hour. On Ambush I made 2b an hour also but when I factor in cost for pots to hit haunting(10m per hit) I am 250m more per hour and don't even have to worry about being on for item stages. So I confirm that hansels of my size at least make more on Ambush than Haunting.
I make 23.7mil a hit on ambush and don't have to use pots. With haunting and having to use pots, my profit per hit is 16.5mil. I haven't finished ambush yet took some pain killers and crashed, my bad guys lol.
Haunting gives me about 1bill bonus in a 1 hour haunting clan! I make about 400mill each unload. I think wasting gold on the 12mill pot may not be fun but hitting the haunting pot drop sure does make up for it! Hansels OP size maybe ambush is for u but for my size haunting def benefits!
I prefer haunting to ambush. Although the stealing phase is good, I find myself more interested in the profits I make in haunting. I do not lose gold for the replacement of pots, and I do get a great bonus from the eb in the end. This test would be more accurate if tested by an hlbc pure hansel
Sniiper it definately depends on the clan if you are judging on money per hour. CoD has steal bit too, along with items, that could pay better than haunt as well, for bigger hybrids/hansels.
I don't see this discussion going anywhere. As MissB has suggested, size may really change the ratio of profitability. Hence my result can only show that small Hansel earns better in ambush than in hunting. We need a big hansel to do the experiment and showcase us the result WITH NUMBER. But if there is anyone interested in helping out, plz note the following 1. Make sure u don't hv very strong BFA so that u do not need to use pot in hunting at all!! Because we r talking about pure hansel here. I hv to admit that if one can hit without pot in hunting, hunting pays better. 2. When u calculate the payout per action, plz use the value from history, minus away (pot cost x no of attk) and divide it by the number of actions(spy attk actions) u do. In this way, overall net average value of payout per action is obtained. Plz do not look at the success screen and calculate. And lastly, plz keep unload style and types of actions constant. ^^.